FrostyTrichs

Congrats on the milestone, and thank you for all you do to support Lemmy and the Fediverse.

Nice! Congrats on your gardening success so far!

To a certain extent I think the list of goals has sort of defaulted to development related stuff. A lot of the growth across the fediverse is being driven by whatever mass exodus is happening at any given time. There's definitely a desire to onboard more people more organically but it's hard when people are expecting drop in replacements for the largest social networks on the planet.

There seem to be a lot of people who are looking for easier ways to introduce people to federated social media as a whole. If you search around I'm sure you'll find an assortment of posts outlining their ideas about what makes Lemmy/the fediverse harder to use. Maybe that's a good place to start building a more comprehensive list of what's needed to grow more on merit and not as a last resort.

If I'm understanding your question correctly the answer is "sort of." The main community I know of is !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com which sees pretty regular activity but it's more focused on promoting the fediverse rather than a checklist of goals. That's the closest one to what you're asking for that I'm aware of.

ye olde whippersnapper

It's fine mate, I'm not here to crucify people who want to or have moved to piefed for any reason. People should be able to go where they feel comfortable and welcome and be happy about it. Do what you want and what works for you, of course. All I'm saying is that people should take note of what has happened and why, and do what they can to mitigate that problem going forward.

As long as communities are migrated and redirects are up before the last day of lemm.ee the transition will be miles ahead of what we've seen in the past where instances go dark without warning. Communities and users survived then and they will survive now I'm sure.

It's just a bit strange to see all the people saying how they would've helped lemm.ee if they'd known sooner or if more cries would've gone out, and then nobody spins up instances to actually DO the things they say.

Ouch. Best of luck getting it back up and running ASAP.

I think the urgency is being blown out of proportion as a knee jerk to really crappy news. There is almost a month to move, which should be plenty of time for new instances to launch and communities to disperse. Even after the shutdown the rest of the fediverse will be able to redirect users to the new communities, wherever they are homed.

Again, I'm not against piefed or against people moving somewhere they feel more comfortable or like more. Those are positive things that the fediverse could definitely use. I just don't understand why we can't learn the lesson and move on instead of moving on and hoping it doesn't happen again before more instances pop up.

At this moment, 9 out of the 10 most active communities are on LW: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

You have to scroll 3 times to see !television@lemm.ee, the first Lemm.ee community.

Lemm.ee was already a decentralization factor from LW, but it was still tiny in terms of communities compared to LW. Moving all of the Lemm.ee communities to Piefed.social (not that it's the case anyway, I've seen communities moving elsewhere) would keep the status quo that we were all living with.

Of course ideally over time more Piefed instances emerge, and we can spread a bit more. Also, thanks to the Piefed migration feature, we'll be able to move communities much smoother (even including subscribers).

Right, I've seen pretty much that same reply already.

I think it's a chance to learn a lesson from how and why lemm.ee is shutting down. Right now I think people are risking moving the same problem somewhere else. Sure, in theory the problem gets better with time because the tools to move around are there, but that only matters if there's somewhere to move.

It would be much more encouraging to see dozens of new piefed instances being launched/advertised. I think there's a big push towards something new because it's in the right place at the right time, and I genuinely hope it's a successful project long term. I just hope the people utilizing it are willing to support it as a platform and not just as a flagship instance.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to discourage people from moving to or using piefed. I understand the enthusiasm for it and utility of it. This is meant to foster discussion not hate on piefed.

Is it just me or are a lot of people just ignoring the fact that a lot of communities and people are centralizing to pretty much a single point of failure again? Wouldn't it be wise to expand the number of piefed instances to help keep things spread out there too if that's the platform you prefer?

There's plenty of stuff that isn't tech there but I don't use it much for general browsing and chat. We host rooms on SXC for some of our communities and the instance itself as a means of communication off Lemmy. Most of my time is spent in those rooms interacting with people I've met on Lemmy or random people who find our rooms on SXC lol.

It does but not all of them are out in the open to discover. Part of how SXC works is based around not being discoverable if you don't want to be.

There is an official directory with quite a few rooms and some unofficial ones for things that aren't allowed on the main directory for whatever reason. I would say the overall size is much smaller than even Matrix but there are some pretty large and active rooms that cover a fair bit of tech and general topics. It's not perfect but I prefer it to Matrix.