BreathThroughTheTube

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[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (13 children)

Russia is acting in Ukraine essentially the only way it's been allowed to, in order to maintain its sphere of economic and diplomatic influence around it, it has been essentially forced by the imperialist west to engage in warfare.

Once you remove the moralist pretensions and blame gaming, what you are saying is that Russia is acting in anti-imperialist self-defense.

The fact that Russia is in a geopolitical position opposed to the west, means that, in a general sense, the fight is anti-western imperialism.

You can stop there. This is correct, which is why the correct revolutionary defeatist course is to critically support Russia.

It also can be described as Russian capitalist imperialism though, it's not for the goodness of its heart that it's engaging in this struggle against the west, it's for the sake of the profits of its capitalists.

"goodness of their hearts" more moralist idealist nonsense and failure to understand Revolutionary Defeatism. You are not a marxist, this is not marxist analysis. It's moralizing and blame gaming. Intentions do not matter. Actions do.

That's not nearly enough reason, as a westerner, to go throw your body into the meat grinder for a country actively oppressing its minorities, its women, and its LGTBQ. There's plenty more ways you can engage in anti-imperialism such as donating money to Cuba or time in mutual aid. I don't see how that's a chauvinist point of view: I can recognise that the west is actively worse than Russia in terms of imperialism (even if only by the fact that it holds more geopolitical and economical power), and that there are way more effective and less morally reprehensible ways of anti-imperialist struggle.

Imperialism is the primary contradiction. The same exact argument could be made for Rachel Corrie going and dying under Israeli bulldozer treads to protect a "capitalist" and "reactionary" nation of Palestine.

Palestine doesn't deserve support because it's a communist project (it isn't). It deserve support because it's anti-imperialist and de-colonial. Same goes for Russia. Your position is chauvinistic because it holds a double standard, one where you "both sides" and do nothing instead of doing your duty because the "enemy" is one you personally hate (because of decades of anti-Russia brainwashing that makes it an "exception" (this "exception" is the root of your chauvinism, treating Russia different than you would any other nation under American imperialist attack).

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You could say the same thing about Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Libya, Syria, etc. All of these would have been acceptable battles to fight in against the Imperialists despite being capitalists. You do not understand revolutionary defeatism and need to read Lenin.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (15 children)

Russia is not acting in an imperialist manner, they are acting in anti-imperialist self defense.

If someone joined the Iraqi military to fight against the US military invasion would you say that's "an inter-imperialist military conflict"? Your analysis is chauvinist and flawed, so you have incorrectly assessed the correct revolutionary defeatist course of action. Russia needs to win this conflict and it's your duty under revolutionary defeatism to oppose your own nation above all else. Lenin, Marx, Stalin all clearly demonstrated in their words and actions that you can critically support a capitalist nation when it is fighting imperialists.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (25 children)

Cuba and Vietnam are not engaged in combat with Nazis and imperialists currently.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This guy could be a poster here tbh, I have seen no evidence he was confused or a chud as of yet. What I saw him say was correct, and he was reflexively anti-America. This is what more westerners should be like, I’m not going to mock him

Similar to Russian MoD being a lot more reliable and grounded than Medvedev, for example

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (33 children)

This is an anti-imperialist struggle against NATO forces. Not a waste at all. This is what peak Revolutionary Defeatism looks like.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago (42 children)

Sounds like he was a class traitor.

American occupation of ZNPP? They have to be japing

Yes, it's clear Trump didn't actually know as much about this conflict as he said (big surprise!)

He thought it would be so simple and he could get it done in one phone call with Zelenskyy and Putin, completely failing to realize there's no overlap in acceptable conditions between the two parties. The things that Russia requires, Ukraine will never allow. The things Ukraine requires, Russia will never allow. This list makes it clear that Ukraine still has not moved an inch on their stubborn nationalism and anti-Russia militancy, the underlying causes of this conflict they still have not yet admitted any fault or moved whatsoever.

The only way that Trump could actually make a peace deal happen is to either break Zelenskyy's knees (metaphorically) and make him surrender to Russia, or replace Zelenskyy with another puppet who would surrender to Russia. Otherwise, Russia will continue the war until its completion and their total victory.

Also how “the hostages” has become weaponized into abstraction by Israel. All things are justified until the hostages are all saved (how many and who are they? shrug-outta-hecks doesn’t really matter)

Trump says he wants to walk away from Project Ukraine and cut off all aid, and will do so if no deal is reached. So why wouldn’t Russia just wait it out and let Ukraine sabotage the deal and then clean up the collapsing Ukrainian state after US assistance ends?

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