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I bring shame upon thee Shallot

Honestly, step away from the lathe because I think we're about a year out from having a "Man-Whip" as an unironic position for making sure things don't get too "gay" in the senate/congress.

There are no horses in the white-house, sir.

The word the acronym represents inside the acronym is simply phallo-representative.

Tag-line.

You indeed taught me a few things. Sure. I'll stick with organizing and the ground-work though as I was never good with coding or any of the examples shown it has uses in. The work I do has zero relevance to A.I as of now, so that could be to do with that anything to do with A.I still disgusts me despite the points and facts that you have. I guess I'm a luddite in that area. Getting old sucks.

Why is it good for workers to own the means of production asks a self proclaimed Marxist.

I wasn't arguing against open-source, nor the fact that I am disgracing the technology as completely useless, said more harm than good. I'm saying that it's going to cause major harm and that having open-source alternatives doesn't mean you own the technology. But you are correct, I am not focusing on the good that it could do.

Marxists recognize that the problem lies not with the technology itself, but with the relations of production that govern its use. Our goal is not to halt progress, but to seize control of these productive forces and direct them towards emancipatory ends.

I'm still in partial disagreement that open-source alternatives truly will change anything. I've seen open-source released before for many products and people still flock over to established products. That could change though and you could very well be right. We shall see in that department. I still don't think open-source technology means ownership of it. It simply is a relation. I am not railing against open-source. It's hard to see the good in these things when they affect the neighborhoods you live in.

It’s to understand how these technologies develop productive forces that can eventually serve as the basis for a communist society, and critically, to identify and leverage the contradictions like open-source that arise within capitalism, even if they seem small at the time. Do you see now why simply focusing on the ruling class’s inevitable misuse, without acknowledging the other side of the dialectic, leads to a dead end for Marxist thought?

I suppose we'll see the uses this technology can have. A.I; not open-source technology.

Some of them, probably, yeah. They were greeks. If we brought back Socrates nowadays he'd probably be Tim Pool.

Phallo-Market of Ideals.

Chad High-Agency Docking. Or C.H.A.D if you will. Give me a government office now.

It is irrelevant to the discussion because nobody is supporting corporations doing these things. If you have a way to combat corporate actions such as the marginalized of Memphis getting poisoned by the giant data-center, then by all means do that. However, fighting against open source development of this tech has absolutely no impact on that.

It's relevant when your point is that people aren't going to embrace this technology easily when it's doing more harm than good and has no clear use within political organization as Marxists so the response here isn't "trolling" as one user put it; it's unsurprising, rather.

As I’ve already explained to you repeatedly in this thread, you’re conflating two unrelated things here. That’s the fallacy. One thing has no impact on the other. Yet, you continue claiming that being against open source somehow impacts what corporations do which it very obviously does not.

I was saying that open-source doesn't matter, people are going to be against this technology because of the massive impact it is going to have globally on marginalized people. Nor was I saying that we should reject it, but there is no obvious use-cases here and it's unsurprising the people are rejecting it because of that fact. You think some coding project where current models have uses like this will somehow be of benefit? Go for it, best of luck to you.

As others explained to you here, use within political organization is not a prerequisite. In fact, if you spent even a few minutes thinking about this, then you’d quickly realize that having open tools is a PREREQUISITE for it to even be possible for them to be used within political context.

Meanwhile, ignoring clear benefits an open source phone has for people in the current system we live in. Just because we can’t overthrow capitalism outright, does not mean we shouldn’t make things better and give more power to the workers.

Which is why I brought up that it doesn't really matter because there is no clear use-cases of these within political organization other than data organization which I did bring up earlier and I said there is likely going to be better solutions for that. Perhaps one day we will find a use for them, in the mean-time it's going to cause irreparable harm and people are justifiably going to hate it and/or reject it. But yeah, for some reason you keep thinking I'm saying "it's bad because it's bad". Also where exactly did I say open-source is bad? I said it doesn't mean anything because any open-source project you could do with this technology as it exists right now is near meaningless in the face of what the harm and damage the ruling class will do with it. Maybe in the future you have a point, but as of right now, I don't blame people for rejecting it or hating it.

Otherwise, if it's not being used within Marxism or political organization; why the hell would I want to use a technology that lets capitalists extract more value and labor for me? Why would I advocate or want it's use? It's not going to make your job easier. Now you can do more and the bar for how much labor is expected from you and how productive you can be will be raised. That is literally what happens with every technology under capitalism. So why should I cheer for it or be happy for it if it's not being used for revolutionary purposes? That's exactly why I brought up phones. Why do I care there's an open-source version of a phone when it's just going to be used as a tool to extract more value and profit from me? That's not me arguing whatever you think I am.

That is as clear and precise as I can possibly be.

think phallocentrically waltuh

Gotta start selling laxatives on a lemonade stand right by the staffer's office.