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[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

It made $2 billion but I don't know anyone that saw it. Or if they did, they didn't talk about it.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I saw it. I enjoyed it a lot. Pandora's seas look even more stunning than the forest did in the first movie. Loved meeting the Omatikaya clan and Jake's new family (Spider and Kiri too, of course). Also, Quaritch being reborn as a Na'vi made him a much scarier and more interesting antagonist than he was. Can't wait to see what Cameron has in store for us in the sequels.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point I can't tell if it is some kind of trolling or are you serious

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[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I saw it, it was shit, specially because I remember the first. The plot of the 2 is horrible, even comparing with first that was generic.

The story moves around the fact that humans want to get rid of blue ppl from a place to explore mineral resources, the leadr of the blues go away, instead of massacre the blue ppl they go for the leader in another place (???)

And half of the movie is just kids doing shit to help the plot show the water, this movie was a long and slow torture.

[–] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Holy shit do these movies need to edited down. Watched the latest one a few weeks ago and man was it 90 minutes of plot stretched into a 3 hour film. Felt like I was just watching James Cameron fellate himself on screen. Oh yeah Jimmy, such a beautiful and imaginative world. Shame it's wasted on the blandest characters and most simplistic themes imaginable.

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I believe if was 80 minutes I would remember it as a good movie and a visual masterpiece, but now I remember as a slugg story that destroyed a technical achievement.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I watched it in 3D on mushrooms. It was one hell of an experience that way, but my god it felt like it lasted 10 hours

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw 3D as well and It was undisputable beautiful, but half of the movie I didn't see, I was rolling my eyes. I Just can't accept how a movie so expensive was unable to create a plot aligned with the Idea of a visual masterpiece.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I pirated it and told people how not good it was.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your service

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Pros: As an effect of him writing the script in the 90s, the movie feels like a 90s movie with modern fx.

Cons: As an effect of him writing the script in the 90s, the movie feels like a 90s movie, with ancient overdone tropes, including the racist ones.

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[–] BeansPurkeypile@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're literally in decade four of people underestimating James Cameron

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gotta love the realistic space ships.

Literally melted in my seat when I saw the radiators. FUCKING incredible

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I forgot/possibly never knew Avatar 2 had come out

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It was good, really enjoyable in 3D Imax.

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[–] Rinna@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm assuming the sequel is also forgettable considering that I've barely heard a thing about the plot.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The plot is FUCK YOU THIS WHALE IS GONNA RIP SOME GUYS ARM OFF IN 3D AND IT'S FUCKING DOPE

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oshit I guess I better watch it.

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[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HexBee@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No no no no, it doesn't just have a plot. It has the same plot even with all the same protagonists and antagonists.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago

Made three out of the top four grossing movies of all time.

I don't really like any of them, but you can't argue with the results. The man knows how to put bums on cinema seats.

[–] jcdenton@lemy.lol 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know a single person who's ever seen it

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know how it made so much money. I guess people are seeing it and not talking about it?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is precisely it. Avatar had originally the exact same problem that the Way of the Water has now. They're tech demos. Interesting, pretty, they move people to see what's what on the theater. But, offer close to nothing emotionally or culturally resonant. It's like a generic roller-coaster, you show up, enjoy the ride, then go get some fries having nothing deeper to say about the experience because the experience doesn't offer anything deep. It doesn't mean the movies are bad or that they weren't enjoyable, that's why they made so much money. But there's no conversation to have around them except to remark on how much they cost to make, or how did the CGI looked like or whether other studios will use the tech invented for this movie on other movies. Plot, characters and symbolism are shallow pools. Specially to an audience that is sick and tired of mega blockbuster sequels.

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[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My wife and I started watching the second avatar and we turned it off about 90 minutes in, just couldn't be bothered to care or watch it any more. And we never finished it. What a piece of crap

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Watched it in IMAX 3d with my kid. It ruled, so much fun to watch. Will never watch it again though, and certainly never at home. That defeats the entire purpose.

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[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I mean it's more Fern Gully than pure Pocahontas.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Also: deep sea explorer done right and not implode himself by sparing expense.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it may have taken 13 years to come back with a sequel that no one asked for and no one expected. But at least he gave us something. Unlike a certain South African director that shall remain nameless...3 years my ass...

[–] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop, is this about Blomkamp?

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[–] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wasn't it blue Dances With Wolves?

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

More like Smurfs with Ferngully

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[–] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was such a bad movie too. Dude was really just like "let's remake the first movie, but wetter"

[–] Johnvanjim@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait for the next sequel, "let's remake both movies, but hotter"

[–] swab148@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then, "Let's remake them all, but earthier"

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are quite a few more sequels in planning

[–] ares35@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

it's up to five films total, now. the remaining three with tentative release dates stretching from 2025 to 2031. cameron has a plan for a further two more but disney hasn't committed past the fifth one---yet

[–] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Avatar 3: The Way of Earth

Avatar 4: The Way of Fire

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Avatar 5: The Last ~~Airbender~~ Avatar

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[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

13 years!!?? Fuuuuck.

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
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[–] johnyrocket@feddit.ch 6 points 1 year ago

Main character

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He can't keep getting away with it!

I feel like there was a good movie in Avatar 2 but a lot of the scenes looked like they didn't render them fully. The FPS changes felt random. If they'd done ALL action in 48 and ALL dialogue in 24 it wouldn't have been as bad.

The scenes of the kids rescuing the parents were so gorgeous. Stunning. But compare that to the scene of the boat jumping and crashing? Insane how shitty it looked.

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[–] doktorseven@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I've always called bullshit on the second movie making that much damn money. There's no way. Not nearly that many people cared about it at all, I seriously think somebody faked that attendance.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Um... I wasn't aware that it was humanly possible to have a 12 pack. I didn't know that humans even have that many muscles on the front of their abdomen.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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