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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

90s into the late 00s for me. No reason to throw out a perfectly good TV.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

People have taken it way past the point of sanity now, but they are better for game consoles from PS1 era and below. Especially for 2D games, as the pixel art was often designed around the square aspect ratio, and the tendency of CRTs to soften images and blur minor details.

It's how the waterfalls in Sonic appeared transparent. Every line alternated between waterfall and background, so when the TV blurred it slightly it looked transparent instead of alternating lines. You'll also often see it in old games with dithering, using a checkerboard pattern of two colors to approximate a third color in between the two when "smoothed" together.

Like I said though, people take it way too far. Most people don't need a reference quality Sony Trinitron monitor meant for professional video editing studios with less than 500 hours of time powered on so it's still in perfect shape. You do you, but there's some real elitist shit I've seen, and some audiophile level "$600 cable for digital signal" delusion going around.

As long as you aren't streching a "square" image to a widescreen one, it's really up to preference on the blur/softening side. And even the streching is just the one point I'm personally elitist about.

As moderm screen resolutions get better, we get better and better approximations of CRT screen effects through using graphical shaders. There's some mad genius shit out there that does things like simulating how the electron beam scans across the CRT vacuum tube.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I think it's funny cause RGB modding consoles and playing them on a PVM makes them lose most of what I like about CRTs

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago

Emulation still won’t make my NES light blaster work for when I want to play duck hunt twice a year.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

don't fuck with smash Melee players

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I have that exact TV in 34". About 90kg/200 pounds

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I used to have a 27" set. Probably weighed about 150 lbs. It had bowed the platform on the entertainment center. I wish I hadn't got rid of it. Those things fetch a pretty penny these days. Old games just look fantastic on a CRT.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Do they really? (are worth something, I mean) I still have one upstairs in my house. I don't use it at all, I've just been using it to hold the house down in case of windy weather.

(actually I'm just too lazy to try and haul it out of the house and toss it.)

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I knew they did better visually, I meant more that they're actually worth anything. The only reason I even still have this old thing is because it's bigger than my recycle bin and I have no urge even attempt to haul it away.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It really, really depends on the shape it's in, and if it's one of the few models that people consider "collectors" models. The only one I can think of is Sony Trinitron.

You might be able to find someone who is willing to pay for it regardless, but it's a really niche market. It's more of "it’s not just a massive doorstop, you might be able to get $20-80 for it".

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

In that case it depends on the TV and how close you are to a CRT gremlin willing to pick the damn thing up.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago

I helped my buddy move his new Trinitron HD (in 1999 or 2000) up 2 flights of stairs.

Our hands were practically bleeding and thighs were bruised from stopping repeatedly to adjust our grips.

There was one point where why weren’t sure we were gonna make it and would need to go rent a dolly to finish it. Which would have meant me sitting with the TV blocking the stairs for Horner long that would take.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 3 points 9 months ago

For any non-yanks reading: 150lb is about 62.5kg or 10st 10lb.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

So a fairly advanced 34" crt is like 85" tft nowdays.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gotta lift those with the screen to your body my man. This gives you a slightly greater chance of surviving stepping on the cord as you waddle it.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

And a lot better for your back!

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There was never a good way to grab the fucking thing.

I also had thr same issue with a flat screen 55inch. I moved out and I had the ask the old guy doing the inspection to help me get it in the car haha.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I'd always grab mine from the front cause the tube was the heaviest bit

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Undersides always built like a knife drawer, all crisscrossing plastic that'd destroy your palms.

Monitors were easier to lift, but the swivel stand was a negotiation every time you set it back down.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

But proper handles would be unsightly.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The good ones had built-in handles.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I have that television.. it's accurate.

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Those Sony WEGAs were bananas. Mine weighed 99lbs. I remember.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I had a 55 inch TV that I bought in 2005 right before flat screens became common. Thing was so heavy it was on wheels.

When it finally died, I used it as a TV stand for my TV.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Nowadays if you've got a fancy one you've gotta do do your best not to accidentally tear it in half

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Especially with the flat-screened Trinitron CRTs, the screen face itself was by far the heaviest part due to all the reinforcing glass. They were ridiculously heavy and front-heavy.

So you had the TV face you, and you bellied up to the screen. Then you put your arms over the top and down each side. The trick was to get the top corners poking out from under your armpits so the TV couldn’t turtle over backwards. Then you grabbed the bottom on either end - towards the rear, but not along the rear - and lifted. Rocking the TV side to side was likely needed to get your fingers under it. What also helped is if the TV was up on something and could be leaned towards you.

Provided your arms were long enough - and I am only 189cm tall, with normally-proportioned arms - this was doable clear up to a 34″ Trinitron. The only models I couldn’t do this on were the 36″ one and that strange 16:9 aspect ratio one that was released especially for viewing widescreen movies.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

This dude moved a lot of TVs in the early 2000's.

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I had one until about 10 years ago. I was moving and planning to take it with me, but I dropped it on the way to the truck. So it went in the dumpster.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We had a skateboard we used to move that heavy sonofabitch around. Lan parties were different.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Shit. I had a Zenith Space Command up into 2004 or so. It started smoking so we decided it was time to replace it.

Google that shit. It almost killed my friend helping move it.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

When I was poorer I bought a TV like this, a CRT, from a charity shop in town and carried it home over a mile then up to the tenth floor of my block of flats. Thankfully the lift was working.

For context in like 60kg when wet.

[–] agnomeunknown@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Relatable. I literally have a bad back because of trying to solo move an old TV in the 90s

[–] weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

And now I'm having PTSD Flashbacks of moving that fucker upstairs

[–] instamat@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Second only to a black hole

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

*what it was like moving a TV from one room to another in the 90s.

I know I'm being that guy, but meme grammar is often pretty abysmal.

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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

This reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where they get a guy they know a massive TV as an engagement present but he breaks up before they get to see it in action

[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Back in the days of my apprenticeship (Ausbildung) the company still had this whole storage of old CRT TVs. At some point the other apprentice and me had to get rid of all of them. This meant each of us grabbing one, carry it down 3 floors, load them onto the company's VW T bus and unload at the recycling center.

No fun, one was so big and heavy I tripped and couldn't get it off my myself. In hindsight I dont't think this was within safety regulations, haha.

[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You could have just chucked them off the balcony. Ok maybe not but would be fun.

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[–] UpperBroccoli@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Dimitar Savatinov!

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 9 months ago

I have an uncle who had one of those massive, old CRT tvs. Easily weighed several hundred pounds. The tv was free to anyone who would carry it out of the basement and out of house. Took four people to move that tv out.

and that is why my lower back is crab meat

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

there's still two left over in our household. while one is really heavy but manageable, the other one hasn't been moved in years. probably for the best.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

It's made by hand one by one, something like the Ferrari of TV/multimedia systems if you have >$25.000 to buy an TV. The advantage all products are modular and can be updated for life to the last tecnologies.

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