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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's important to know the difference between

Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned

and

I'm sorry, Daddy; I've been very naughty

[–] myusernameis@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago
[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wonder how many Demetri Martin jokes are stolen every day on Xitter

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

All of them.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Where's that guy been anyway

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's because "I'm sorry" is essentially short for "I feel sorrow". What it means specifically can differ depending on the context. We have lots of examples of phrases that work like this, for example: if you end a relationship with someone you call it "breaking up" with them. If you pass through a tunnel during a phone call and can't hear the other person very well or the call drops, they're "breaking up". That's because something "breaking up" can refer to it falling apart or being severed. When you apologize, you feel sorrow over your own actions and/or the hurt they have caused. When you console someone grieving, you feel sorrow for their loss. This, like puns, is not in any way exclusive to the English language.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

You really know how to take the FUN out of funeral.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 year ago

During a period where life was fucking me over frequently, I had a friend who would, in commiserating with my situation, say sorry to me, at least partly because he felt bad that he wasn't able to help.

My autistic ass would get confused about whether he had committed a slight against me that I was unaware of, and I'd ask for clarification (because sometimes he was actually apologising for something I hadn't registered). This developed into a shorthand where if I was confused, I'd ask "funeral sorry?".

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

One's a statement about your feelings. The other is a statement about your hobbies. They are not the same.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I apologize for your loss

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry = I am sorrowful (sympathy or empathy)

I apologize = I am to explain my action (defense)

Consider:

  • "I'm sorry you feel that way."
  • "I owe you an apology."
  • "What a sorry excuse for a ___ ."

Meaning, "I apologize" at a funeral is the same as "In my defense..."

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The meaning of words are context dependant? Wow, that's crazy. /s

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

“Sorry” has lots of meanings in English. Many of them mean the opposite of what they sound like, or are accusatory even.

[–] groats_survivor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Can we just post Dimitri Martin jokes and pass them off as our own?

[–] mcmoor@bookwormstory.social 4 points 1 year ago

When I was learning English I feel very stupid questioning why English people says "I'm very sorry". That I lack a critical knowledge that it's normal and it means that someone also feel sorrow.

It's very liberating knowing that even native speaker are also confused and questioning that same phrase.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

There's the sympathetic and apologetic sorry.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not if you're the one who caused the funeral.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

Just a bunch of patches.