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Well, everybody born in the american continent is technically "american" too, including Central and South America. Is there a specific term in english for these people?

Edit: Thanks for all your answers, especially the wholesome ones and those patient enough to explain it thoroughly. Since we (South Americans) and you (North Americans) use different models/conventions of continent boundaries, it makes sense for you to go by "Americans", while it doesn't for us.

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Australia we call them cunts.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[–] mixolyxo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The simple answer is really, no. Colloquially if you say "American" you're talking about someone from the USA. We'll further segregate ourselves into the States we're from, which isn't that different a distinction between "European" and "German".

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LaChaleurDeLaNuit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unironically I know a few languages that use this term, namely French and Portuguese.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 5 points 1 year ago

Also Spanish 🇪🇸

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging from playing video games in EU lobbies, "Hamburger"?

[–] VulKendov@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

But what if I'm not from Hamburg

[–] Randomunemployment@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's always been funny to me when latin Americans get pissy at the term American being used to describe the country who's president is Biden ( said with love as mx) . They always try to correct Americans to "estados unidenses" United Statean. Which in my opinion doesn't work for 3 reasons. First name recognition most of the world associate Americans with 'merica. 2nd it's a difficult set of words for Anglo speakers especially vs Americano. Thirdly there are actually 2 countries thats proper name include "United States" those are united states of American and United States of Mexico, who colloquially are known as America and Mexico respectively.

[–] EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am brazilian, and "estadunidense" works perfectly for our daily needs cuz ya know, no one mentions Mexico as "United states"

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, fun - I just used Brazilians as an example in another comment. Would you ever say "I'm American" when you're talking about your continent?

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[–] racsol@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~There's also United States of Brazil~~.

But you've got "Mexican" and "Brazilian" for both of those countries that include United States in their proper names.

I'd continue to say "United statean" in Spanish because that's an accepted name in the Spanish language. There's no confusion to what country you're referring to.

But in English it is a lost battle. If you mean to include people from the entire continent, you'd have to say "American, as in the continent".

Edit: The current official name of Brazil is Federative Republic of Brazil.

[–] VulKendov@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

America is 2 continents, it'd be easier to say North American/South American. There is rarely a reason to lump both continents together. No one refers to people from Europe or Asia as Eurasians

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There are multiple models for continents. The English speaking world uses the 7 continent model. But non-English countries often use a different model. There is a 6 continent model which considers the Americas to be a single continen. It is used much more commonly in Latin and South Americas.

The models of the world that you learned in school are not universal truths.

[–] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Treasonous Colonial

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

U.S.A-holes

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

While technically correct, I've never heard a Brazilian refer to themselves as "American" when they intended to mean South American. Linguistically, when you say "American" you're talking about a citizen of the United States, not just any person from the western hemisphere. And if you're talking about a specific continent (North America, Central America, South America) you're going to be specific about it. A Brazilian would say "I'm South American" when referring to their continent.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Brazil considers the Americas to be a single continent, with south/north being subdivisions. A lot of people here don't understand that usa's actual name is America just like the continent, so they often get mad when the word American is used to refer to people from the USA instead of from anywhere in the americas.

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[–] Kase@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Idk about everybody else, but you can call me Michael (or kase, obv) :)

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago
[–] zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

In spanish its estadounidense

[–] leftzero@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yankees are only people from the North East US, like New York. Calling someone from California a Yankee would be laughable.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US, sure.

Outside, a Yankee is a Yankee, even if they're cosplaying a ghost while standing in front of a burning cross and waving a confederate flag. We don't care enough to ask in which state they had the misfortune of being born. 🤷‍♂️

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's like calling someone in the UK English even though they live in Scotland. You sound stupid but yeah only those people care

That's a good analogy because that also happens all the time.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but British is a thing, and everyone knows about it (the British made damn well sure, back when they were the main global bully)... American, on the other hand, doesn't work, because it refers to the whole damn continent, not just the USA... so if we want to refer to the citizens of the US Yankee / Yank is about the only option we have; not the best, maybe, but probably the least worst.

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[–] Randomunemployment@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a Californian I will embrace any non-american who calls me Yankee assuming it's followed by some Sherman posting.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago

Stinky Gringo

[–] OriginalUsername@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

"someone born in the US"

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

"American" is the official name, though throughout history attempts have been made to find alternatives. You can read more on the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonyms_for_the_United_States

The only officially and commonly used alternative for referring to the people of the United States in English is to refer to them as citizens of that country.[18] Another alternative is US-American,[19] also spelled US American.

Several single-word English alternatives for American have been suggested over time, especially Usonian, popularized by architect Frank Lloyd Wright,[20] and the nonce term United-Statesian.[21]

Writer H. L. Mencken collected a number of proposals from between 1789 and 1939, finding terms including Columbian, Columbard, Fredonian, Frede, Unisian, United Statesian, Colonican, Appalacian, Usian, Washingtonian, Usonian, Uessian, U-S-ian, Uesican, and United Stater.[22] Names for broader categories include terms such as Western Hemispherian, New Worlder, and North Atlantican.[23][24][25]

Nevertheless, no alternative to "American" is common in English.[18]

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[–] TheHotze@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Technically you could shorten it the other way to Unionist. Which is likely to be confusing, but on the plus side might make some idiots mad.

[–] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Simple, USAmerican

[–] Rolando_Cueva@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I call them US citizens.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago
[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Halfway-North American

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

This is one of the reasons Americans will often identify themselves as a citizen of their state or even city. They say they're Texan or a New Yorker, for example.

It can come off as conceited, as it's not reasonable to expect non-Americans to have a perfect knowledge of US geography, but it helps the sentences flow and is more accurate/specific than just 'American.'

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

To add a bit of context, it isn't arrogance or something that drives us to use "American" as a demonym, it's just the linguistic norm. I don't find any of the other names offensive (except seppo, but that one is meant to offend me), but most of us would probably do a double take at the term "USican" or "USian." Virtually all of us would accept Yankee.

Further reading: the full name of Mexico is the United Mexican States. If we wanted to be pedantic, we could say that using the reference to the US would be ambiguous, as they too are technically a US.

[–] rimorso@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

In Italian he/she would be called statunitense, statunitensi for they.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Arabic there's multiple possibilities depending on the speaker, but my favorite is "Amrikani"

[–] thlcn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In Czech one could say Amíci! Latin anyone?

[–] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago
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