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YouTube is cracking down on consumers’ favorite loophole - Adblockers::undefined

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 112 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I can really understand YT wanting to push ads because I know how expensive their servers are and all that, but I just can't get over how many ads there are. Two ads before the video starts is already pushing it, and having ads in the middle (which can be many times depending on the video) is far too much. If they crack down on adblockers I'll likely use alternative frontends like piped. No way I'm watching 6+ ads in one sitting.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think when they were trying to push the YouTube Red streaming shows there were a few times where they put in full episodes of shows as pre-roll ads. They were skippable but an hour long TV show as a pre-roll is just obnoxious.

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[–] hersh@literature.cafe 3 points 2 years ago

Holy crap. I had no idea YouTube was that bad. I guess my ad blockers work better than I thought.

It's going to be a never-ending cat-and-mouse game from here, I guess. And then eventually Google will make Chrome required with their trusted platform bs.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm in the same camp. I was generally fine when it was an occasional skippable pre-roll ad before some videos. But the last time I watched a video without a blocker, there were two unskippable ads at the start plus two more each at the 7 and 14 minute mark of a 20 minute video.

This hour has 22 minutes indeed.

[–] Lt_Cdr_Data@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Same. If it wasn't for my adblockers, I'd have stopped using youtube long ago.

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[–] janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

update your rules, made the popup go away on my ubloick origin <3

addendum: a how to:

  • left click ublock origin
  • click the three interlocking cogs
  • select the filter lists tab at the top
  • click purge all caches
  • click update now
  • refresh your youtube tab you just encoutered the popup in and press f5 or refresh the site otherwise

before i had the popup on each video, after no more.

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[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 54 points 2 years ago (6 children)

if the forcr me to watch ads i will finaly leave that platform

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Peertube has a great import feature.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Bruh, your not gonna believe this, but the ducks at the park are free. if you use one of these, you can download all the ducks you want. I downloaded 9000 ducks so far.

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[–] MrFlamey@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As far as I can tell, they aren't doing a very good job. I've seen the notice that an ad blocker is not allowed, and even without upgrading the ad blocker I use I can still just click the close button on the notice and it goes away and I can continue to watch uninterrupted.

If Google does figure out how to prevent people from using ad blockers on YouTube, I think it will help me break my honestly unhealthy habit and reduce the amount I watch, or perhaps even quit entirely, since there are far more ads on YouTube than there were in the past - especially if you also include sponsor ads that are embedded in videos.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I have been enjoying Nebula. If Google manages to kill ad blockers, I will probably just go live over there.

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[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So far, I can dismiss the popup in Firefox and keep watching, but I dread the day that this doesn't work anymore.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a fairly straightforward cat and mouse game. The only thing that has the potential to make it complicated soon is Google's Web Environment Integrity API.

[–] Jasontheguitarist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As long as Firefox keeps doing their thing and doesn't adopt Google's bullshit....

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Then YouTube refuses to serve Firefox users. Eventually the EU punishes them for it. Not sure what's after that.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

YouTube is fighting a losing battle

[–] LetMeEatCake@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

That really depends on what their goal is.

From a business perspective it's not worth fighting to eliminate 100% of ad block uses. The investment is too high. But if they can eliminate 50% or 70% or 90% of ad block uses with youtube? That could be worth the effort for them. If they can "win" for Chrome and make it a bit annoying for Firefox that would likely be enough for Google to declare it a huge success.

People willing to really dig all the way in to get a solution they desire are not the norm. Google can be OK with the 1% of us out there as long as we aren't also making it possible for another huge chunk of people to piggyback off it effortlessly.

[–] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These ad block users should be considered the cost of doing business and they should be careful with targeting them.

This kind of thing springs users into action to either find or use work arounds or create a alternative platform.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No one can create an alternative platform. Youtube costs far far, far too much to run. This is why everyone failed. Google subsidised it for what, 15 years? Before it got any level of profitability and even then, nof really. Google derives other value from it, like feeding data into their ad profiles, but no one else needs that.

It's also clear that workarounds will stop soon as Google has installed Web drm directly into chrome

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

People are already leaving chrome just for that reason. Google underestimates just how fast people will bail on a platform that goes off the rails.

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[–] Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Anyone like me who haven't even seen this ad block warning?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Still nothing. Firefox with ublock origin and ghostery running in parallel.

On my phone I'm using newpipe, on my tv smart tube next, so those are clean by default.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's been hit-or-miss for me (Firefox w/ uBlock). It seems like Google's pushing updates at irregular intervals. Clearing the uBlock cache and forcing an update usually does the trick for me, though. I'm guessing they'll burn the volunteers out eventually, though.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Clearing the catche and forcing an update seems to work but I'm not sure it actually does anything. I think they're just slowly ramping up the frequency of that pop up. For me atleast it has just been getting worse and worse despite all my efforts.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago

Everyone I know who has gotten it is outside of the US so far.

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[–] olsonexi@lemmy.wtf 14 points 2 years ago
[–] Companion1666@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

havent seen this popup on Youtube. currently using librewolf with ublock origin. maybe i'm not logged in.

[–] SinJab0n@mujico.org 9 points 2 years ago

Yup, and thats why im leaving YouTube indefinitely

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm using Firefox with uBlock Origin and I have yet to see that popup

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I've been getting it off and on the last few days, oddly only on one PC still running 10 but everything else with FF/UO is up to date. Nothing on two 11 machines so far, with all signed in on the same google account.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] DietBajaBlast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You will. I didn’t start getting it until three days ago.

[–] janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

refresh your filter cache <3

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Loophole? Piss off with that language, I control this machine and what is shown on it.

[–] JewGoblin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

we will win, sail the high seas

[–] huginn@feddit.it 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Pretty sure most YouTube videos will be hard to pirate. Big creators sure... But most others I doubt.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

It is trivial to download youtube videos.

[–] JewGoblin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I wasn't really referring to downloading, but rather Smartubenext, and Revanced

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't say hard, just that nobody pirates them because they're easy to ad block.

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

I've been using LibreWolf with uBO for a while, havent seen anything yet.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It has been a long time coming - might be we're in for another dark age of the net at the current pace of things.

A way around will be found, it always is, until then consider archiving the things you enjoy to pass the time while we wait.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I have a feeling it'll probably due a great deal of harm to the idea of Anti-adblock being "actually effective". Up until now it's only really been used by a handful of News, file download, and... Mature content... sites. Places with smaller userbases and less traffic where the effort for bypassing them is lower or just not discussed due to the small size or nature of the site.

It's not really the case here though. So in one way or another this is going to fail.

I would definitely recommend people start backing up YouTube videos from older creators because I imagine that after this they'll be looking to reduce costs and that likely means purging inactive channels or channels that cost more than they make.

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