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[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 140 points 8 months ago (38 children)

One million people playing at 1080p and 60fps

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, some do be playing at 1440/2160p

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[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 8 months ago

Tears of Nintendo

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"the harm caused by this software was “manifest and irreparable.”"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Tears_of_the_Kingdom

"More than 10 million copies of Tears of the Kingdom were sold in its first three days of release, making it the fastest-selling game in The Legend of Zelda franchise, as well as the fastest selling Nintendo game in the Americas with over four million copies sold in the US alone.[50][51] 

Tears of the Kingdom sold over 2.24 million copies within its first three days of release in Japan, 1.1 million being physical copies.[52][53] 

By December 2023, the game had sold 20.28 million copies worldwide.[54] 

In August 2023, it was reported that the sales of Tears of the Kingdom may have boosted the gross domestic product of Japan, with a 2.8% increase in consumer spending in the semi-durable goods sector during April to August 2023, which included video games.[55]"

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

the harm caused by this software was “manifest and irreparable.”

Except it’s arguably not, because it’s not like the 1 million copies of the game was stolen and could not be sold anymore. The game is still available for sale, and it is still making them money - all people did was pirate a single copy of the game 1 million times.

Also, if they sold 20.8 million units, and assuming every single instance of pirating was done by people who did not buy the game (read: lots of people bought a legal copy and “pirated” it anyways for better performance on Yuzu), they lost out on 5% revenue as of this time of writing.

Very sad Nintendo couldn’t sell another $60 million worth of games /s

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yup. I'd buy a digital copy of TotK if I could play it on my PC, but Nintendo doesn't offer that, so I either need to buy it for Switch, or pirate it. I found BotW kinda lame (I much prefer Skyward Sword and Link's Awakening), so I'm not motivated to buy it for Switch, especially since I've seen reports of mediocre performance.

So yeah, I don't feel bad for Nintendo at all here. If they made their games available on PC for a reasonable price, I'm sure many would buy their games twice, once on Switch and once on PC. Their loss I guess...

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[–] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I feel like everyone is missing the line that says "before it came out". However, I find that hard to believe that 1 million people played a pirated copy before the release date and i can't remember any leaked gameplay or screenshots.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They probably mean in regions it wasn't available in yet, which is a key reason people would pirate. If they just made the game available everywhere then they wouldn't have these problems.

[–] DeadOfMind@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Nope, 2 weeks before tears of the kingdoms worldwide May 12 release, someone uploaded it to torrents.

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[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Pirated, or downloaded a back up of a game they bought a physical copy of?

All the people I know who emulated it also bought it in this case, because emulation was objectively a better experience for the game.

I bought it and played in on the switch, myself, but if I ever did another playthrough I'd want to higher res of emulation.

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[–] demonquark@lemmy.ml 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh my, that’s terrible. If anyone were to tell me however one could do something so dastardly, I would totally take active steps to avoid ever pirating the game.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Download an emulator and find a torrent for the game. It's pretty easy to do, and you get better quality. I haven't played TotK, but I did do this for Pokémon Arceus. I knew I'd hate it, but I wanted to see where it was going. It's a pretty shit game. Do not recommend.

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[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemm.ee 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love it when companies think the (often invented) number of pirated copies has any meaningful correlation to lost revenue.

My girlfriend and I have one Nintendo Switch. We share it. But the only modern Nintendo games I play are the Legend of Zelda series. Since Breath of the Wild, when a new one came out, we'd buy it right away, and then I'd end up placing a copy on my PC to play so we could play together.

If Nintendo thinks I'm gonna buy a game twice just to play at the same time as my partner, when we only have the one console, think again. If Nintendo thinks someone who only likes one game is gonna buy a whole second console, they're out of their minds.

What I do own is a Steam Deck, because Steam is a platform first and I can play my games on my fancy PC at home and on multiple devices. My Steam Deck can even play non-steam games great too!

The second Nintendo makes a PC store that let's me play their games on my other hardware, I'll start buying that second copy of all our games solely for the convenience of it. Until then they can suck an egg.

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[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That was mostly me. I put a copy on a clean 2tb hard drive and repeatedly hit Ctrl-A Ctrl-C Ctrl-V. Then when it was full I pressed Ctrl+A and Delete and started the process all over. I went mad with power and don't even know how many copies I stole.

Consider that your warning, Nintendo. Shut down Yuzu and I'll activate the batch script.

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

This goes to show that people want to play Nintendo's games but don't want to get a switch, Nintendo has a big opportunity in untapped market potential for PC gamers

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 8 months ago (13 children)

They'd never open up to the PC market. Their whole business is based on selling their propreitary hardware.

Also, that would open the floodgates for modding. Nintendo hates modding.

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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I own a switch, I bought the game, Game runs like shit, Instead of returning it, I play it on yuzu

I'm sure if they had their way anyone who backwards engineers a system like polymega or analogue would be next on their hit list.

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[–] Crampon@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

I have a GameCube, Wii, Wii u, 3DS and a switch with multiple games on all. I've also used emulators to play modded Zelda games with increased performance.

Nintendo made shit ports on switch and took a premium. They can get royally fucked.

They are not losing revenue from piracy. Stupid greedy orcs.

make it 1.000.001 cause my god, I am never buying a switch game ever

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago

If I was never planning on buying your game, does that mean you lost money?

[–] Wes_Dev@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't be fooled. The real issue here is that Nintendo is trying to use this case as a wedge to eventually outlaw or effectively ban all emulation software because they think it somehow massively affects their bottom line, or they want to have a scapegoat for weak profits.

I've never once in my life had a Gamecube, for example. I never will. So if I wanted to pirate Gamecube games and play them on my computer, it is literally victimless, and has zero negative affect on Nintendo's profits. In fact, I might love the games and decide to buy official merch. Same with the Swtich. I haven't pirated either, but you get the idea.

Even if you can somehow prove how many people pirated a game over the years, that tells you absolutely nothing about lost potential profits, because people that pirate probably never had the money to buy your hardware and games to begin with.

This is all just corporate propaganda.

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[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I totally did pirate this game. And I'd do it again, too.

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[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And I bought it once. I think that’s a fair trade.

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[–] beaxingu@kbin.run 17 points 8 months ago

i hope Nintendo looses on every count.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

I'm one of those million. I also bought the game the day it came out and played 40+ hours on my switch.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I mean they're assuming everyone who downloaded it was using it with yuzu and not, for example, hacked or modded switches.

[–] Coldus12@reddthat.com 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm really curious about this case's outcome.

On one hand yuzu shouldn't be illagel, on the other hand, their patreon income surged when tears of the kingdom came out, and maybe that is enough to say that they enable pirates and thus should cease all operations.

I'm rooting for yuzu. Have they said anything at all yet? Btw if you want yuzu I think now is the time to download it while it exists (in case nintendo moves forward / wins, or yuzu devs are intimidated to take it down)

[–] hatsa122@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For what i have read, they dont have a case and it should be a guaranteed lost for Nintendo if they try to pursue this to court. That said, they know the legal battle will be long and expensive and are preying on the Yuzo team not having the resources to fight back.

Is not the first time they are pulling this shit.

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[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (16 children)

Sorry, a game that's been out for years shouldn't be $60. Start discounting these older games like they used to do.

[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

TOTK came out not a year ago. This article is specifically about how TOTK was allegedly downloaded 1 million times before it even was released. You did not even read two sentences of this article.

Nintendo filed a civil lawsuit on February 26 against Yuzu software developer Tropic Haze, claiming that the team’s tech let folks illegally pirate 2023’s The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom over one million times a full week and a half before it even came out.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

How can they possibly know how many times it was pirated? This was the last Nintendo game I bought, actually, and will now remain so until their next console comes out. Those of us with older Switches don't need an emulator to play your games pirated, Nintendo!

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Some unpaid intern was tasked to go onto public torrent sites, put in a search on Zelda, and just tallied up the number of times the various torrents were downloaded in a Excel spreadsheet using =sum(AX:AY).

That was turned over to the lawyers and charges 1k an hour, billed 20 hours for 1 hour of work a paralegal took to modify what came out of ChatGPT, bought some coke and here we are.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

Maybe people don’t want to pay premium prices for games on 8 year old underpowered hardware.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 11 points 8 months ago
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