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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 100 points 11 months ago (5 children)

And how, exactly, are they going to assess if anyone is "undocumented" at 200, 300, 400 yards?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

Well, they're BROWN. Clearly! /s

[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

Just like the door gunner in Full Metal Jacket.

Anyone who runs is an illegal. Anyone who stands still is a well disciplined illegal.

[–] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

With a color swatch strip that runs from beige to brown. Anywhere darker than tan and it's open season.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 8 points 11 months ago

The law change as far as I can tell allows you to shoot intruders on your property right away.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 4 points 11 months ago

Heading north

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago (3 children)

These mofos always looking for excuses to hunt people, especially minorities.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Yes, my immediate thought was "Melenated people are targets more than ever in my lifetime. I'm the same age as people who still weren't allowed in designated schools, hospitals, despite federal laws. Yes, one of those states

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

ETA to ranchers selling slots on their ranch for anyone to come in and hunt humans.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 25 points 11 months ago

You can bet your ass Kyle Rittenhouse would be begging his mom to drive him to Arizona.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Bold of you to assume they aren't already

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

It's important, I think, to remember that our nation, and much of civilization chooses to put property rights over human rights. Some nations do not, many of which are the happiest on Earth according to the world happiness index.

We choose, to be vindictive, petty, murderous monsters, many of which are willing to kill over their pile of crap, and some of which are extremely eager, going by their door signs, to kill over their pile of crap.

But Freedom to roam countries tend to be societies, whereas we're more of a burlap sack fillled with turds, Metaphorically speaking.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago
[–] MinusPi@yiffit.net 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm a food delivery driver in rural AZ. This is horrifying.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah no, you are an ex food delivery driver. You just don't know it yet. By that I mean quit. Don't put yourself at risk for these people's sake. Tell the company they cannot pay you enough on hazard pay to justify working there anymore

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Remember the parable of the man who was beaten on the road to Damascus? In the New Republican Version, it ends with the Samaritan gunning him down from 100yds, just in case.

[–] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Scene: The road to Damascus

Samaritan: laying on the ground, beaten and bloody

Repub: GET ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND!!!!

Samaritan: lifts head slightly to see who is yelling

Repub: HE'S COMING RIGHT AT ME!! pew pew pew

Samaritan: dies

Repub: you guys all saw that right? He was coming right at me, I had to stand my ground! (from 100 yards away)

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

what's hilarious about that (OG) parable was... it's original purpose.

some cultural context is important there; not rendering aid if it could be rendered was viewed every bit as much as stabbing a dude would have been. It was the only commandant that could have been broken by inaction.

now the merchant and the pharisee were both seen as righteous men. So as jesus was telling the story; everybody expected him to stop. When the merchant kept going by, everyone thought (more or less,) "oh, the pharisee had it."

When the Pharisee kept going... he was literally calling the rich fucks and their puppets (the pharisees) murderers. The point of the parable was that those two were worse than the "unclean" and broadly despised Samaritans. (which were viewed in very similar manner to how Trumpian broke-dicks view migrants seeking asylum, in point of fact.)

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Reminder that illegally crossing the border is only a misdemeanor.

[–] ____@infosec.pub 9 points 10 months ago

Wasn't but a few hours ago that I was telling someone elsewhere in the fediverse that food is a human right and directly causing famine (Palestine) is unacceptable use of human rights as weapons.

Fortunately, when Israel couldn't quite be offensive enough at that exact moment, Arizona sat up and said "Hold my beer, y'all!"

[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Where's the bill to remove everyone who's not a Native American from this stolen land? Oh, right.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

There's some nuance here. INAL, but I'm reading that this bill would allow someone to confront a trespasser, far from home, yet on their property, and call it castle doctrine. If that's the case, I disagree mightily. Fuck around outside? That's for 911, even if they're far away. Don't care what you do outside, I'll wait on law enforcement. Inside? FAFO.

If passed, the change of “and” to “or” in state law would give a much broader defense to people who use deadly force, as property would only have to satisfy some of the requirements instead of all of them, said criminal defense attorney Jack Litwak. [emphasis mine]

“The idea with the Castle Doctrine is that you are supposed to be able to defend house and home,” he said.“This seems to broaden it to say you can shoot someone that’s just on your actual property.”

On the surface, this doesn't seem like much of a change. But I've seen cases revolve around seemingly minor details. Words have very specific meanings in law. Very specific.

Remember the guy who shot a YouTube bully who was fucking with him in a food court? And we all cheered him on? Here James Reeves, gun nut and attorney, breaks it down. Yes, being somewhat cheesy is part of his shtick. In any case, he's expert on both firearms and related law (ex-military and a practicing attorney.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QMkL5wlcaM

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Murder is against federal law.

but somehow, I get the feeling the spineless idiots running the show won't enforce it.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We aren't quickly becoming the Imperium, we're already there. The hottest and most abundant commodity is bodies, exploited to the last sinew. Whether your shot dead, or worked to death in dangerous conditions, you will serve. It is beyond time we've dealt with our demostic terrorism, the politicians that enable them, and the corporations that fund it all.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Well, you have to admit, it's one way to ensure these republiQan dickhead office-holders will never set foot near the border again.

[–] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When will it extend to 10" from wherever your car happens to be? I mean, why not right? The car is clearly more valuable as long as it isnt a sissy commie electric.

/s for sadcasm

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In committee, Rep. Alex Kolodin, R-Scottsdale, praised the bill for protecting people who could be accused of using excessive force in these situations.

“This is a great Second Amendment bill, that is also protecting the rights of the accused to make sure we are taking ambiguity out of our law,” Kolodin said.

These people are absolute acorns.

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