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[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Moana is considered a disney princess movie?

I mean...she's the daughter of the chief of her village, but does that really count as a princess?

Is she even the daughter of the chief? I don't know, I've only seen that movie once

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 9 points 2 hours ago

There's princess, and "Disney Princess", and a Disney Princess doesn't have to actually be a princess (and been like that for a while)

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 106 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't get it, so looked to see if the answer was on other sites. Full credit to Tisha Bell on Facebook.

"if you notice, around a certain time, there stopped being villains and became more about breaking generational traumas, and believing in yourself"

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the very specific type of therapist who works with things like "self-esteem" and "trauma".

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There literally are villains as well. So idk wtf this is a hot.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. The statement is so vague that people can assign thier own meaning. Either by accident or design, this shares common design principles of a mentalist doing a cold read.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I think it makes more sense when you graph the movie-going population against demographics. They're following the money. Any concepts of inclusiveness or social reform are purely coincidental.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 58 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Some people just post vague bullshit because they know that a large group of morons will just go "Hmm, yes I don't understand but I agree!" and upvote it.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Like a horoscope!

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

There is a comment a bit higher up explaining it

[–] Acamon@feddit.uk 30 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I had a look at the list of movies and dates, not sure that I get it.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 53 minutes ago

Frozen (2013) doesn't have a traditional villain. The main barriers to the main character's happiness is a lifetime of being told to keep her superpower secret and the wedge it forms between her and her sister (whose stunted emotional development causes her to jump in the arms of the first man who pays attention to her).

Big Hero 6 (2014) does have a villain, but his motivations are complicated, and the main character's journey is as much about overcoming the trauma of losing his brother as it is defeating the villain's plans.

Zootopia (2016) reveals the villain at the very end, and most of the plot is driven by the characters grappling with societal injustice and prejudice.

Moana (2016) is a hero's journey but the big bad villain is revealed at the end to be, like, environmental destruction personified, and the way to defeat the villain is to apologize and make things right.

Frozen 2 (2019) similarly has a plot where it's revealed that all the problems are caused by the characters' grandfather's sins, and the way to fix it is to undo the betrayal and land theft of the indigenous people (which their entire kingdom is basically built on).

Raya and the Last Dragon (2021) is one I've only seen once but I remember it being about climate change and generational trauma.

Encanto (2021) is for sure about generational trauma. The antagonists are mostly conceptual: crushing expectations/responsibilities that come with great power, the imbalance and negative family dynamics that come from parents or grandparents showing favoritism, insecurity that comes from going from poor to rich but believing that it can all fall apart in an instant, the toxic effects of keeping secrets. Oh and it all stems from the grandma seeing her husband murdered by soldiers in front of their baby triplets.

Strange World (2022) is about climate change caused by overexploitation of natural resources.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 29 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I am lazy and did none of that. Someone please just comment the answer for us.

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 5 points 8 hours ago

This comment elsewhere in the thread addresses it. https://lemmy.world/comment/20680178

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the mid-90s when the princesses started having more agency?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 10 points 18 hours ago

the mid-90s is also when disney was on the brink of bankruptcy so there may have been something else going on

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 9 points 18 hours ago

92-98 when they stopped all being white Europeans. Although I have girls and can confirm that 2009's Princess and the Frog is the best Disney princess film.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Or Disney just learned to pander to Tumblr users

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Human therapists? Is that the specific type? Idk

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Well, "Humanistic Therapist" is a thing

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Nothing to do with tastes changing or anything