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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 17 hours ago

When you run the net-income numbers, a family earning $100,000 is effectively in a worse monthly financial position than a family earning $40,000.

At $40,000, you are drowning, but the state gives you a life vest. At $100,000, you are drowning, but the state says you are a “high earner” and ties an anchor to your ankle called “Market Price.” This is exactly what folks making 80k are using to justify their desire to see folks making 40k lose benefits.

This is exactly what folks making 80k are using to justify taking benefits away from those making 40k. Why are they living better than me? No fair. In reality, they should be advocating for getting all the same benefits themselves as well.

[–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 21 points 1 day ago

This is an amazing breakdown of how catastrophically bad the definition of the federal poverty line is in the modern economy. They use sound logic and data to calculate that the value should not be around $31,000, but in fact closer to $140,000.

With this foundation, they revisit common graphs that economists trot out to "prove" life has objectively improved for the majority of Americans in the last 60 years, and show that they actually show the opposite. Those graphs are built on top of the poverty line, and that calculation is bunk, so the whole argument crumbles.

The obvious next step would be to calculate the improved poverty line at key points in America's last 6 decades and generate corrected graphs, but that seems like a monumental effort. I feel like someone could make that into a dissertation.

[–] Maiq@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago

“The U.S. poverty line is calculated as three times the cost of a minimum food diet in 1963, adjusted for inflation."

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Its funny how they keep using reasoning from sixty years ago to predict how things will occur today. By funny I mean pathetic.