Shit human pushing shit tech that makes people stupider, encourages them to kill themselves, worships fascism, and destroys the planet. Yeah, wow, go figure.
Fuck AI
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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My friend installed a local LLM copilot to his computer and asked it if he had any extra files that could be deleted. It just doesn't seem smart to query a LLM when people have hard coded apps that will do the same. I have a space saving program that searches app directories and my files and lists unwanted files that I van delete to save space. Why are we remaking the wheel with half of the bloat LLMS is trash
“Profoundly impressive”?
I find nothing profound about it at all. It’s a devastating resource hog, it’s wrong a lot of the time, it’s manipulated by its owners to deliver the messages they want or avoid inconveniencing them, it lends itself to the further stupidification of humans who are too lazy to fact check(that’s almost everyone), it’s used to make video lies in the face of objective truth and sexually humiliate women.
Honestly, fuck AI.
Why it couldn’t be strictly deployed as a backup to human skill such as looking for cancer, trying to formulate better drugs, etc. instead of the invasive garbage it is being used to get rid of humans.
Making sand output what feels like a real conversation is impressive. Making nuclear bombs is impressive. Bad things can be impressive.
I didn't say the potential capabilities weren't impressive. Creating interesting things from text prompts is impressive. I do not find it profound.
Ai is great. It can detect cancers earlier. It can optimize traffic lights to reduce travel times and accidents. It can calculate folds of proteins. It can find and summarize tiny details from huge sets of data.
Fuck cramming it into my operating system though. I don't need an LLM to run a query on Lightroom and give me a summary of the application and suggest how I can download and install it when it is already installed on my system and I just want to filter my list of apps so I don't need to scroll halfway down my programs list to open it.
The problem isn't AI. The problem is the people selling it.
Why did you just say what I said while initially contradicting me yet ignore the valid ctiticisms?
The reply correctly highlighted the idea that AI is 'impressive'. It wasn't a denial of your critiques of AI.
If this was a verbal conversation you'd think that was a normal response instead of someone picking a fight.
I find nothing profound about it at all.
Honestly, fuck AI.
I was under the assumption that you were against AI all together, not just the data-scraping privacy-violating megacorp deployments of LLMs.
Always seems to be the people who understand computers the least that are tasked with selling these products or managing the companies they makes them. By these products I do of course mean AI and microsoft
1990s Dilbert comics, but in real life.
Koolaid comes in many flavors
what is even the use case? like for a normal user, instead of like clicking on a programm, they tell the ai to open the program?
like a shell that is just .. worse?
or is it supposed to help fix you with having a problem with the operating system? which would be ironic
like only use case i can imagine is for like old people who just can not handle their pc. But the result will just be them sending all their money to a scammer
what is even the use case? like for a normal user, instead of like clicking on a programm, they tell the ai to open the program?
Yeah, so they can feel like they're in Star Trek. Except it's shitty and nowhere near utopia.

You know, I don't remember them trying to talk to the Enterprise's computer in any of the TOS films. They downplayed that a lot, I think for enhanced realism. It stayed canon that you could talk to computers, but they only did to set the self destruct sequence.
Either way, by TNG they were back at it, and they got in the habit of "Computer: create a holodeck program simulating the appearance and personality of the engineer who designed the Enterprise. Run it in Holodeck 2." We're getting pretty close to that capability now, minus the room full of VR.
The problem? LLMs will tell you to add elmer's glue to pizza sauce to hold the cheese in place, because someone joked about that on Reddit once. They have no sense of reality.
In fact, it's kind of amazing how well the writers of TNG did with that episode and it's follow-up. The simulated Leah started showing romantic behavior, and Geordi formed a parasocial relationship with Leah Brahms...a married woman who didn't know Geordi personally, and so there was this uncomfortable moment where Geordi was uncomfortably familiar with a complete stranger. The Enterprise's computer hallucinated a Leah Brahms who was single and ready to mingle.
They're working on making that problem into a consumer product.
Just so you can imagine yourself having a personal Jarvis instead of doing the thing yourself and get better with it.
The end game is probably something like "Write me a report from x and y about z and send it to my phone" or somerhing.
It's for people who are functionally illiterate. They think this opens up a whole new market for them to sell to.
There's a bunch of usecases.
For example, you can just tell Copilot to do a thing instead of spending however long it would take to google a solution. Will it gimp learning? Of course it will. But that's technology advancement in a nutshell - making things more accessible, by making them easier, thus making some baseline levels of knowledge obsolete. We no longer learn Assembly to interact with our computers, future generations won't know where Settings are, because an AI Agent will be doing it all for them.
Another example is people suffering from disabilities or even just temporary injuries. Imagine being able to fire up your PC and just tell it to play your favourite show, instead of having to use your feet or, I don't know, a pencil in your mouth, to click through the windows.
The idea is excellent. The implementation is some 5 years too early. The AI systems available, in their current form, are just not there yet for this to work well. Microsoft even pulled an ad they made recently, because people noticed that Copilot made an error there. Or even multiple errors.
Anyone got a mirror for that image? Won't load for me

Ya big sexy legend
Never been a better time to ditch Windows.
Which has pretty much always been the case
NOT TRUE!... tomorrow will be even better
Reminds me of an old saying my father once told me:
The best time to ditch windows was 10 years ago. The second best time is today
If every single screen produced between 30 and 25 years ago just so happened to have a Snake game you had to look at every few minutes, people's (rightful) impressedness would turn into equally rightfull unimpressedness bordering on disgust.
It's not LLMs technologically that's unimpressive. It's shoving them down people's throats.
Sometimes less is more.
LLMs are the lava lamp of computing.
Half the internet already runs on lava lamps (not a joke). https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ssl/lava-lamp-encryption/
They are provably less random than a lava lamp, though. And also not very pretty to look at.
They consume a lot of energy for an extremely narrow use case. Output is still random. Companies such as Cloudflare will try hard to find a use for them when a better and extremely cheaper alternative exists, such as weather sensors.
It's not that people are unimpressed, it's that the product you're shipping is:
- Not what people want
- Not what you think it is, or at least not what you sell it as
- Is violating people's privacy and intellectual property rights
- Is just plain not useful.
It's fucking cool that computers can talk now. Sadly, they are not super smart.
Perhaps a solution is to just replace the CEOs,not being all that smart is practically part of the job description.
Imagine if Nokia pushed Snake as hard as Microsoft is pushing AI.
Lots of tech and science is super cool. Time dilation and its compensation is incredible. I don't want that to be the main focus of my phone or OS, but I'm glad we use it for GPS satellites. It's not a multi trillion dollar industry that should take up a sizable chunk of energy usage, nor should it be a large percent of US GDP.
I love the fact that the idiot reckons he can just bluster his way out of this. People are really upset about the decisions Microsoft are making, and it's not as if they don't have competition. His response to all of this is to quadruple down on his already brainless decision.
No company in history has ever deserved to lose as much as Microsoft has.
I grew up before playing snake on a phone. Anything good the world will rape till it's evil. We can't have good things. It's not worth it. Shit look what happened to democracy.
Honestly the older I get the more I want to move off the grid and disconnect from all this mass marketed manipulation of the human species.
LLMs ARE impressive! Impressive as hell! But the use case is limited and I do not want that shit jammed in my OS.
Current AI image generation is really impressive if you compare it to previous ones like openais gpt2
Its unimpressive when compared to humans, who manage to do so much
I was having a conversation with my brother who was like: "I can ask AI to summarize a subject for me so I can learn about it way faster."
And like, that's cool I guess, but it's a computer generated summary with no soul. I recently bought a book on a super niche subject, because of course there's a researcher somewhere who writes stuff like that, and it's so much richer than any AI could generate.
Basically, replacing human art and research is a huge loss, because we'd no longer be talking to one another. I want to hear about niche topics and look at art from people who can think and dream and are passionate about it. No matter how impressive AI will get, we shouldn't end an intergenerational conversation that has been going on for millennia.
/rant
“I can ask AI to summarize a subject for me so I can learn about it way faster.”
These kind of arguments always remind me of this Alanah Pearce video:
"But anytime that I ask it about a topic that I don't really know anything about, it just teaches me so much. It's actually just the topics that I do know things about that it tends to be wrong on."
Excellent video btw, if anyone hasn't seen it yet :)
“I can ask AI to summarize a subject for me so I can learn about it way faster.”
"And as a bonus, AI will withhold crucial bits of information, make up others, and then shade this twisted, regurged slop with whatever bias suits its owner, so I can walk away confident I have seen a thorough treatment of that subject and not need any further information at all. Win/win!"
(Yeah, I know that's not what your brother said, it's just what I hear when people genuinely rhapsodize about the bowdlerized half-digested shit they get from AI and think they actually got what they asked it for, assuming it exists to serve their own needs and not its masters.)
Totally agree with every word you said. At this particular point, I consider AI to be a net loss to humanity: unreliable, untrustworthy, unregulated, slurping up water and energy on an already warming planet, fed with literally stolen material and not satisfied even with that, killing websites and hogging bandwidth, pushed into every corner of our digital lives regardless of what we may want or need, and designed above all else to hoover up salable data on individuals while capturing as much manual searching and learning as it possibly can to ensure that the flow of information remains in the control of big data.
Being unable to get my computer to do what I want because I don’t know how it works is less frustrating than being unable to get my computer to do what I want because •it• doesn’t know how it works.