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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38519743

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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

glasses-off Lord of the Flies is about the inherent brutality of humans

glasses-on Lord of the Flies is about the inherent brutality of the br*tish

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unironically yes. Iirc it was basically making fun of a genre of fiction of the time where European/British kids would bring "civilization" to wherever they were stranded.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

It's pretty explicit about it too. They're replicating the systems and violence they were taught, to a backdrop of nuclear war and ongoing fighting between surviving military elements. When they're rescued, after hunting down and murdering one of their own, it's by a hunter/killer sub that's still actively hunting for targets even after the world ended.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The boys had set up a commune with food garden, gym, a badminton court, chicken pens and a permanent fire.

Sick.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

permanent fire

seems very fuel and labor intensive but I guess starting a fire is hard without a fire

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

keeping at least coals going is pretty easy, and yeah it prevents the intensive labor of starting one from scratch.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, most cultures have a way to keep and revive embers. This can be difficult if you don't have that much access to hard, dry wood to burn though. Making new fire from scratch every time isn't only annoying, it's really inefficient if you don't have a good supply of calories to spend doing that.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Had Auschwitz been an anomaly, they wanted to know, or is there a Nazi hiding in each of us?

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-average westerner

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

“I have always understood the Nazis,” Golding confessed, “because I am of that sort by nature.” And it was “partly out of that sad self-knowledge” that he wrote Lord of the Flies.

People that allow themselves to become scum look outwards for justifications for it in order to not hate themselves. They seek to justify it as the natural state of humans because to do otherwise is to admit that it is a personal failure that they have become that way or that they continue to allow themselves to be that way. They wish not to change, so they pretend that it is impossible to change, that it is natural, that it is human nature and they are simply enlightened rather than hiding it.

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I always liked this story/real event. The boys did a recreation of the events for tv a year later after rescued: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYebOCCoTYM

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

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