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Reminds me of the sublimed species in Ian Banks The Culture series
Stupid-ass copium, like all religion.
Magical thinking
Stargate sg1 universe
I like a lot of interpretations here, and while not strictly non religious, Gnosticism is more reverence of the knowledge rather than the institutions, worth looking into if you're theocurious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
Probably most realistic. Our perspective is of 100 years and there's should be much longer.
You would probably be interested in occult philosophy. Some groups are more organized than others, but they tend more to organize around orthopraxy (same practices/rituals) rather than orthodoxy (same beliefs) which is more typical of conventional religions. This way they can encourage more free exploration, debate, and creativity.
Most of these belief systems are predicated on concepts of reality being made of layers of "planes" with higher beings existing more predominantly on higher planes, and it being a goal to aspire toward those higher planes.
Apparently not many anthropologists or people interested in history on Lemmy.
There's a few options, and it depends on what you mean by "gods." The overall category you're looking for is called "Folk Religion" which means it's not organized beyond what local groups chose to believe are the "rules." Without more details, anything below might fit.
Animism is a starting point, in which you believe that everything has a spirit or is otherwise alive in a spiritual dimension. There aren't gods, per se, but elemental forces are higher forces that are semi-sentient. So, for example, the Sun would be alive, Earth would be alive, the elemental force of water is alive, and each has some sort of sentience, but it's sort of too high to directly talk with people, but you sort of communicate with feelings.
Shamanism is animism with more nuance. Gods, demigods, demiurges and the like exist - basically there are non-human, non-corporeal entities that operate in a spiritual realm, as do humans, so a shaman does negotiation as a middle-man because they have learned and been trained to be able to operate in both our realm and theirs. While not an organized religion, most forms of shamanism have similar rules and standards. Which is surprising considering that many cultures developed shamanism independently of each other.
As a sort of more detailed step towards specificity, you then have specific things like Native American traditional religion, Shintoism, many African traditional religions, Druidism and European pagan traditions, modern wiccan or other witchcraft-oriented beliefs, where local gods and spirits abound and are deserving of worship and veneration from everyone, not just having the shaman interceding on your behalf.
Slightly more organized, but not really, are polytheistic religions. Hinduism, Hellenism, the Roman Pantheon of gods, etc. Westerners think of these as "organized" but they really weren't/aren't in the way that we typically think. There was no main "Church of Zeus" and then after worshiping him, you go to Athena or Nike. A person and household had their god and they gave sacrifices, then also did the same for other gods if they needed their help. It was very ad-hoc, and sort of interesting, as the Greeks and Romans went around the ancient world meeting other cultures, they would find another polytheistic religion and not say "No, our god of war is Ares, and she's stronger than your god of war." They assumed that the gods were the same globally, and it was just the names that changed. So more like "Oh, you call the god of war Kartikeya? Cool, we call him Ares. You know him, too, awesome." So the dogma is actually quite light.
Honorable mention for Taoism and Buddhism, which both can incorporate varying levels of animistic and shamanic beliefs, plus gods as higher beings that are out there, but not as high as every human's inner Buddha form (if that makes sense). However, as philosophies-cum-religions go, there's much more dogma and convention in play in some versions. However, both are Gnostic, in that personal experience plays a role in shaping a personal dogma, rather than having someone shout rules at you from a pulpit. I'm not familiar with the Taoist angle there, so I may be wrong about that to some degree.
There are subsets of monotheistic (primarily Abrahamic) religions that are mystical and are less dogmatic. Sufis or Kabalists or Christian Mystics. They sort of do their own thing, and typically are seen as maybe heretical, maybe not, by the mainstream elements of the same religion. This crosses over the last line of what you mentioned about dogma, but worth mentioning.
Finally, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is just about anything you want it to be, and there's also a Church of the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
This question is too vague. “Higher beings” is not well defined enough. “Other planes of existence” is not defined well enough. For that matter “the Gods” is not very specific. And in a weird way, what you’re saying seems somewhat circular. Like what do you call it when you believe gods aren’t gods? If you don’t believe they’re gods then who are you even indicating?
Are you asking if there’s a name for someone who believes that humanity’s major religions do worship real living beings, but those beings are simply advanced alien creatures and not metaphysical in any way.
Yup. Believing in higher beings from other dimension is just religion with different words. Only when the belief is based on fact and not faith can it not be religion.
Yes, but there are many different types of religion. You can cathegorize it. If someone asks what a car with a roof you can pull down is called, saying it's still a car is not helpful.
I disagree, there are rules and structure to religion.
Believing in ghosts is not based on fact. But you wouldn't call that religion.
Numerology is not a religion. It does have rules, but it is not organised and it doesn't have a central authority. It is absolutely based on faith though.
Okay, it’s superstition, of which religion is a variant. There’s a very thin line between having faith in the supernatural and worship.
Like what do you call it when you believe gods aren’t gods? If you don’t believe they’re gods then who are you even indicating?
Let me give a possible interpretation. These are hypothetical, both in terms of argument , and in OPs viewpoints.
We live in a simulation. The "higher beings" are the admins that are running the simulation. They can change the settings of the simulation and break the rules with their avatars. They live as common folk on their own plane. Jobs, wife, kids, food and sleep etc. So they don't have superpowers, they just get to mess with our reality but not theirs.
Gods sounds perfectly usable in this example
Lots of good answers here, but what do you mean by 'other planes of existence'?
sg1/ and some trek ascended beings are based on higher dimension/planes of existence, almost alway beings of pure energy thought or conscience. heaven/hell is considered a higher dimension, scifi is obsessed with it, and it tries to add some technobabble into why these exists. in rick and morty, same thing they called it "a paradimension"
First and foremost that's personal spirituality. There's also a new age thing about starseeds aka reincarnated souls from other planets which this loosely reminds me of. Also kinda reminds me of this video I saw the other day.
I still call it religion.
Deep Space Nine?
Q continium, a pseudo-higher dimension is the caretaker(nacene)
That’s Bajorianism or whatever Dukat was smoking in the last season
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"My child" intensifies
Winn and Humbridge have a special spot in hell.
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Deistic (believing in a god or gods without a necessary religious component) but not theistic. Or pagan, which is just believing in higher beings (or singular being) that are not Abrahamic. There's probably other words that fit the bill, too.
Non-Denominational Polythism would be the term, I think.
Science fiction, maybe?
Yeah my first thought was, "a Neil Gaiman novel"
There was a period of my life when I was stoned out of my mind, and I thought "maybe we're actually tiny things, thousands of levels below quarks, and the solar system is a molecule in a cell, and as we go beyond, maybe we're inside some enormous being... And then I was like but make it fractal, and nearly went nuts trying to imagine it" 😂
I don't know but now I'm wondering, do the Greek gods qualify?
greeks seem to have a hierarchy. thier are demigods lower than gods, gods are lower titans, and lower than primordial beings(aka personification of aspect of the universe) like NYX, gaia, ouranous,,,etc who also birthed the giants, and thier "abilities are more powerful the higher your hierarchy is.
Are gods lower then titans? The gods are the offspring of them and overthrow them.
In European polytheism, there isn't a clear division between the mundane and the divine, like you see in Christianity.
There are gods all over the place. Your house has a couple of gods in it. They aren't powerful enough to kill you with lightning on a clear day, but they will still annoy you unless you leave out a little food for them.
Specifically in the Greek context, Protogenoi, Titans, Olympians, Gigantes, Nereids, Gorgons, Furies, Fates, Muses, and Nymphs are all gods of varying strength and prominence. Everybody worshipped Zeus, but only your family worships the house gods.
Likewise, in Scandinavia, you have your Aesir, Vanir, Jötunn, Dwarves, Elves, and so on. Gaels have the Sídhe, Fomoire, Tuatha Dé Dannann, Leprecháns, and whatever else. To an Arab pagan, djinn were a form of minor deity. The kami of Shinto continue to encompass everything from local spirits to the supreme creator, to the point that Japanese Christians and Muslims refer to God as Kami-sama.
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When Christianity caught on, other gods were out, but that didn't stop people honoring their local house gods. Small gods were reïmagined as fairies; Christian clergy denied their reality, but belief in fairies was mostly seen as a harmless superstition, like not stepping on a crack in the road. Belief in fairies persists in Ireland; ironically, those who genuinely believe in the old gods are the most devout Catholics.
We see a similar phenomenon across history and culture. When Christianity met Vodún, people didn't stop believing in their indigenous gods; instead, those gods became spirits who God put in charge of particular aspects of the cosmos, which is how we get Vodou.
Likewise, Zarathustra was a polytheist, but by the time Islam rose, Zoroastrians were down to two gods, with the others recast as basically angels. This concept in turn influenced Judaism and Samaritanism; Yahweh, the Hebrews' patron deity, merged with El, the Semitic supreme deity, and the other gods became angels.
Because Christianity caught on as the Western Roman Empire was disintegrating, people felt like they were living through an apocalypse. Clergy said that, while the physical world was collapsing, the world to come was brilliant, and thus a sharp division was drawn between the mundane and the divine. Modern Euramericans are raised with this division; whatever our beliefs or lack thereof, we see it as fundamental, and thus retroactively and anachronistically apply it to pre-Christian paganism, whereas the pagans saw the divine as simply part of the world.
if there's higher dimensions they're still part of the universe as I know it, they're just not in the parts I can perceive. There's very little useful speculation I can do in relation to the parts I can't perceive. Apparently this is called "existence monism," so this would be one of the other things in the Wikipedia theology tree. personally I would classify it as a type of Monolatry.
wouldnt another dimension be seperate from the universe, but not reality.
I mean we've already accepted that we don't know how big the universe is. The way physics has been going lately the universe might actually be bigger than reality.
"spiritual, but not religious"
then explain in more detail
What makes something religious? Because at least with Christianity, they claim that God is spirit. Whatever 'spirit' is...
Religion has to do with habits and practices. So someone can brush their teeth religiously.
Christianity is a religion, but it’s also a faith-based belief system that incorporates alternate planes of existence. Some people eschew the religion part but still have the belief system, and some people play inside the religion without actually believing in the spiritual side of things.
I like to explain Christianity as the belief in a multidimensional being who defines the dimensions we can observe and has done a bit of mucking around in a way that was measurable by us. Angelic appearances? Most would call them aliens, as they’d be extra terrestrial intelligences. Spiritual possession? A different dimension that has an effect on the ones we inhabit, but is currently beyond our capacity to fully understand.
Can you define "god" in this context? Does "god" imply a creator of human existence, or merely a being with abilities not understood or quantified by humans (think Q from Star Trek).
The latter isn't necessarily a belief system in and of itself. It's just the acknowledgement that "higher", ascendent beings can exist because humans are not, necesssarily, the be-all-end-all sapient beings of the universe.
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Spiritualism?
Still theism, but is also what "spiritualism" usually means. You believe in some deity or deities, but not necessarily anything organized.
I've heard and read that Abrahamic religions don't have a place for their gods to hang out but the rest they hang out in the Metadivine Realm.
Whatever you want. All of religion is made up, structure provided for those in need.
Trascendental polytheism? Are these "gods" involved in any way with our "plane of existences? Are they one or two beings or whole races? Do they have their own "gods" and so on like a multiplanar Matrioska doll? 🤔😅
Honestly that's just religion through science; the purpose is still to give meaning to meaninglessness.
Those higher beings keep hiding my keys and deliving kids, women and elderly people in the various war stricken areas. And they gave us big orange.
Let me precalculate that on my realshitolometer hold on....hmm, just as I suspected, its a billion percent!
common sense.