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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This is funny because the US anti-intellectual MAGA movement is doing the exact opposite. People with degrees who know what the fuck they are doing are being shunned and idiots with feels are being rewarded.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

How long to learn Mandarin? 🤣🥹🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that'll solve anything. Plenty of people with degrees are idiots too. And many people without degrees may have long running experience in topics they talk about due to other reasons than getting a degree.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah I think this could backfire horribly, when grifters with degrees are given that extra credibility by government decree. Andrew Wakefield is a doctor after all.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 4 points 8 hours ago

Makes sense to me, for certain topics/areas.
Australia has a law about not being able to give financial advice without a qualification to do so, so 'influencers' who cover topics such as banking and investments do need to be careful about how they present their content because we dont want people going into financial ruin thinking "DollarGodMoneyMaker" on youtube is trustworthy and knows what the fuck he is talking about.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s not really a horrible idea, so long as it’s not being used to promote propaganda. (Which considering the source- it is)

Influencers are fucking horrible. Popularity should not default to trustworthiness. Remember: it was this type of thing that led to the idea that vaccines cause autism.

Gating influencers behind having even a bachelor ya degree in whatever field they’re teeing to bullshit people into buying, will cut down on the amount of ignorance spread as a result.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

But should trustworthiness default to popularity?

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Influencers are trustworthy only because they’re influencers. They usually have no knowledge about jack shit aside from what they can get for free for advertising for it.

Under no circumstances should anyone calling themselves an “influencer” be trusted.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Not the question

[–] hark@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dr. Oz is a heart surgeon, but that doesn't prevent him from selling bullshit.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

And his shittery isnt a new thing.

He was shilling "alternative medicine" back in the 80s.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (13 children)

Surface-level, seems good idea. In practice, it depends entirely on who gets to define an "influencer", what is a "serious topic", what activities meet the threshold of "speaking on" that topic, and which universities' degrees will be respected and which won't. It seems like a very flexible framework that their government could use to remove nearly any person from any platform for any reason. If I post "fruit is good for you" on a social platform and someone else sees it, that falls under these rules as I understand them. I anticipate selective enforcement of these rules against those not aligned with the CCP, in fact the rules seems to be specifically written with that in mind.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You know if the title was just “China bans influencers” I’d be ok with it.

[–] Brahvim@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Aaaand Louis Rossmann? A person actually working to bring influence and not just saying stuff?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 25 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

What? You mean you'll have to actually KNOW something , before you blather on about it? That's un-American!

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 13 points 15 hours ago

Which is precisely why China's quickly taking the world leadership title away from the US.

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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

This seems like it could be abused pretty easily. IDK are there any Chinese citizens here to comment

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Naw come on, China's not known for their extreme degree of control over what they'll allow their citizens to see or post online, that's just wild talk man. They certainly don't have enormous human and technological infrastructures dedicated to making sure that their internet is squeaky-clean and government-approved for all their citizens who they totally trust.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If youre an influencer with millions of followers a degree should be a small road block. Unless you dum.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

If youre an influencer with millions of followers a degree should be a small road block. Unless you dum.

That last sentence seems to describe a great deal of "influencers" that I've seen.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Those damn Commie bastards!

Hey! That's actually not a bad idea. Can we do that in our government, as well as dopey influencers? Start with PeeWee Mengele.

[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

America has a guy in charge of the health department that says a bunch of wack shit. It's not just influencers but people with positions of power.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

That's who I was referring to as PeeWee Mengele.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 16 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

Americans: "This is censorship" Also hundreds of American dumbass youtubers: "Covid vaccine makes you a transhuman robot; drink horse de-wormer instead. " Also american dumb shit tech ceo's talking out of their asses about shit they never studied: "Trans people are a conspiracy against humanity." The list goes on and on.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Man

Of all dystopias why is Deus Ex becoming true?

This has shades of a conversation you can have in that game's Hong Kong where a bartender tells JC something to the effect of "China's 'repression' has ironically preserved people's ability to keep on like, LIVING. Whereas the United States with all its freedom was carved up and eaten by megacorps"

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Whereas the United States with all its freedom

The United States is the country that leans on their supposed freedom the most in the world, but they are not the country with the actual highest freedom. And that's even entertaining the rhetoric that absolute freedom is indeed desirable, which it most certainly is not.

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