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Pentagon orders states’ national guards to form ‘quick reaction forces’ for ‘crowd control’ (www.theguardian.com)

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Pentagon memo details plan to train over 20,000 national guard members across the US to carry out Trump’s order on subduing civil unrest

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

Well though I've been very disappointed with the protests so far in that the amount of people was just insanely low.

I just saw a protest in Bucharest where well over a million people showed up, well over 5% of their total population. Even the last no kings barely got to that level and that is after the country has been humiliated, made the world's laughing stock, destroyed, and converted to a fascist military state.

Having said all that, I've been very positively impressed by the restraint that people have shown so far, this might actually be the winning card here, keep that up

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

P25 was hoping people would be rioting by now and they keep upping the ante to try to get people to do it.

However, if people did start to revolt, I doubt it would stop in the streets. It would be a multiple front effort, from digital, physical, and media fronts. The military lacks the resources to control the whole country and I honestly doubt that the American military is completely on Trump's side .

And the current administration is dumb as fuck. They do not have the wherewithal to carry out martial law effectively. Trump is just doing his best to distract us from the Epstein files, his current shutdown failings, his ballroom, his crypto fraud, etc

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

thats why propaganda is useful in pacifying people, especially conservatives, they dont want to thier own supports to uprise as well.

[–] tedd_deireadh@lemmy.world 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

I thought the same way until I read about the 2024 Venezuela presidential election.

Maduro created an alternative government body to subvert the existing parliament and had judges on his side that said it was legal for him to do this. That allowed him to consolidate more power and further secure his position as a dictator.

Even though everyone in Venezuela and across the world can see this blatant corruption, there's little the people can legally do about it, because the government doesn't work for them anymore. And you can see similar things happening in America. The gerrymandering of states, the use of military force on the citizenry, the threats of changing electoral laws, etc.

It happened there, and it can definitely happen here if we let it. That's why its important we continue to protest, stand up, and make our voices heard lest we wind up like Venezuela or worse. That needs to be our cautionary tale, not our playbook.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

No, no, It Can't Happen Here.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

120 guns per 100 people in the US. Venezuela? 18.5 guns per 100 people.

I'm not saying it would or should come to that, but if it did Americans are armed.

[–] tedd_deireadh@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I think that's a good point. Americans are heavily armed and those that are generally know how to use them, however a gun alone is not enough. You need to have the will and desire to use it.

How many Americans do you believe will do that?

How many Americans could even hold their own against a lightly armored squad?

I just don't believe in the fantasy of American citizens fighting the US government with their pistols and hunting rifles. I think that's a story they sell us to make us feel like we have power.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

That goes back to my original point of multiple fronts.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Some Americans have a lot of guns. A lot of Americans have no guns.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

The problem is, 100 of those guns belong to one guy. And he doesn't wanna share.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Anything to justify that Insurrection Act.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 14 hours ago

At some point we need to just accept this is an inevitability and plan strategy with that in mind. Avoiding providing anything that could be justification can be useful to but time and build support or preparations, but it's not a stance that can just work indefinitely, because they will simply keep doing more extreme actions to try to provoke a reaction. Even if it takes public executions by masked agents of the regime to finally trigger the response, if they want to make violence happen, they can.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Americans ran off of countries to invade and now they had to invade themselves

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

How distinctly Roman of them.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 17 hours ago

Some wanted a Red Caesar. So they voted for Agent Orange.

They desperately want to believe it's the same picture.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 17 hours ago

They're preparing to invade Venezuela as well.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago

A strike force to brutally crush descent. This isn't about protests, it's about opposition. Once the capability is established, he will use it on any dissent, like the dissent over cancelling or blatantly stealing an election, refusing to leave office, intimidating, jailing or killing his political and academic threats, or any further violations of law or constitution he commits.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Well, I guess that conceal and carry permit was a good idea.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago

Revealed: Pentagon orders states’ national guards to form ‘quick reaction forces’ for "thought control."

FIFU

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

National Guard ain't got level 5 plates...