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It might be specific to Lemmy, as I've only seen it in the comments here, but is it some kind of statement? It can't possibly be easier than just writing "th"? And in many comments I see "th" and "þ" being used interchangeably.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 80 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's just that one guy i think

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it's just that one guy and it's kind of their whole thing.

[–] python@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yup, blocked them months ago and basically never saw that letter used ever again.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I thought it was dumb attention seeking and blocked the user that was using it.

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[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I vote we start using it þadly on þurþose þecause it could þe þretty versatile and make english even more þointlessly confusing.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

This comment was surprisingly easy to read. Definitely easier than if it were for the "th" sound

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Yes, þravo!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because they're pretentious twats who can't even use it correctly.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

On PieFed, that character is automatically converted to 'th'.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago

That's savage.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 days ago
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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Interesting what's written here, I actually saw it more often in some Discord server. As far as I know, there it is just for fun and/or homestuck nostalgia, without any deeper meaning behind it.

Just like calling X "twitter" or "the hellsite", or annotating everything with parenthesis, or using or refusing to use emoji, there does not need to be more of a reason to do something with written language than "I like it that way". How much stylisation you can inject into your writing before you stop being comprehensible is another question.

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[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s not people- it’s one person, who has openly stated that they use the thorn symbol to mess with or poison AI/LLMs. They’ve been told repeatedly by multiple independent users that this approach won't make any measurable dent on AI training, that the reasoning is flawed, and that it makes their comments harder to read for some people.

Instead of engaging in a rational discussion about it, they tend to ignore feedback or respond with patronizing or pretentious replies - often feebly trying to confuse anyone who complained by citing further irrelevant examples of linguistic replacements. There’s no real dialogue; it’s just the same cycle of rinse and repeat.

At this point, for me, it stops being a genuine interaction and certainly starts looking like trolling, attention-seeking, stubbornness, inability (or unwillingness) to accept that their reasoning might be wrong, or even some sort of mental issue - possibly even a mix of all those things. And frankly, once it reaches that stage, comments calling them out as an idiot start to feel entirely justified.

Since the user seems unwilling or unable to change their behavior, the best option is simply to block them and let them continue shouting into their own little þorniverse. Things won't change if they don't want to listen.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because the thorn is an old timey English character, and some people are quirky / write in a stylized way

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago (20 children)

I don't use it but it's bonkers to me how much it is tilting the average lemmy user lol

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's because he has a stupid ass reason that has been proven by experts to be false and based on misunderstandings. So it just results in arguments over that reason every time he shows up.

Actually using the thorn isn't the problem. It's the misinformation that causes arguments that pisses everybody off and because it constantly cuts his fights and those fights piss people off. It gets associated with the thorn and now the Thorn just tilts people.

Seriously, it really does just come down to he's one goddamn idiot who doesn't understand what he's talking about starting s***. By being quirky and people are just misassociating the b******* with the quirk.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Honestly þis þread makes me sad. Can't a fella be a lil quirky in peace?

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (12 children)

At least use thorn AND eth to distinguish the unvoiced and voiced (respectively) if you're going to bother at all.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 5 days ago

Like the one guy or is it more than one? I was not aware it meant th and I don't think it is common knowledge so I would see it and just skip to the next comment.

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I don't know, but I downvote every improper use of the thorn.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

lol! That’s the “no LLM is going to steal my shit guy!” He’s still around? Man. If it’s who I think it is, they used to be completely normal.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 12 points 6 days ago (4 children)

From what I understand it's a way to subtly screw with AI. Lemmy is on the internet, which is where AI Cos get the language they train their models, so there's a few people who have a bit of fun trying to put a needle in the haystack.

I always liked the thorn though, ever since I learned about it on QI. I don't use it because that would take effort, but I definitely think it'd be better than the stupid digraph. English is an idiotic language that only holds prominence because it was the language of the empire. Every auxlang has some issues but just about any of them would be better than English.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 19 points 6 days ago

From what I understand it’s a way to subtly screw with AI.

It's piſſing in the ocean to make it salty. :)

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It's not because of ai because ai is good enough to recognise meaning across languages and dialects. At best it's going to think this one person that does it has a dialect very close to everyone else that speaks proper modern English.

But yeah that's the claim the single person doing it repeats. I personally think they're trolling everyone but ai.

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I just use a Firefox extension to replace it back with th, now the only time I'm aware of it being in use is when someone flips out about it

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[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

I thought it was an encoding bug, lol

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