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[–] UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I'm conflicted on this one. It seems to be framed as hateful against Middle-eastsrn religions in particular, but doesn't it restrict ALL religious symbols? I'm all for less religion in public places, regardless of the religion.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The giant cross on the top of Mount Royal is a religious symbol too so they should remove it asap.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not a daycare though. Neither is the oratory.

There’s a bunch of cross on school outer wall troughs out Quebec. The CAQ didn’t see it important to rip them out because « they’re patrimoine »

Hypocritical fuckers

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago

The moment the satanic church notices their under-reresentation and fixes it, you'll see everyone on-board for purely secular daycares.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This image released in September 2013 by a minority PQ government shows a proposal for types of religious clothing allowed and not allowed for public workers under Quebec's proposed 'charter of values.' (The Associated Press/Quebec government)

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you have additional information that contradicts it, I'd happy to see it. I don't live in Quebec, and only know what I know.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't, and i don't live in canada, nor i care about the politics too much, that's why i'm here to see what's up, and i find taking an 2013 image from the government proposal at the time and without context is a bit disingenuous.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I took it from a news article from last week, which suggests pretty strongly that that proposal is exactly what was implemented, and they never produced an updated graphic.

But again, I'd welcome a genuine correction.

[–] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The bill is still being debated in the supreme court. A timeline with more details and updates can be found here: https://ccla.org/major-cases-and-reports/bill-21/

That said, the Quebec government has been pretty fucking hostile to people who wear religious symbols. The original article frames it as residual tensions from the French Catholic chuch but a big part of it is definitely xenophobia and racism. Montreal and Quebec City are progressive havens in a land of very small, very white, very religious towns.

Thank you - this is what I'm here for.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Just underneath that picture it says it was not implemented.

In 2013, a minority PQ government proposed the notorious "charter of Quebec values," aiming to ban religious symbols for public servants, but it went nowhere after the PQ lost the 2014 election.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Again, i don't really care, i'm providing context you purposely left out.

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Yes but i have to scroll waaaaay down to the picture only to find it is a picture from waaaay back. I'm not saying you are, but i often find people who have the intention to mislead tend to post it this way.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's Quebec. they love to pick and choose their hate. yes it's specifically targeted towards Muslims, no they wont' remove Christian symbols, yes Quebec has always been pithy like this.

Remember back in the 90s when they wanted to ditch us but keep the money? this is just more pithy Quebecois bullshit.

[–] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Bigoted piece of shit.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Is a Christmas decoration a religious symbol? Or is Christmas now entirely commercial.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, Christmas is a archeological festival from before religions existed /s

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

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[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

I’m sure the seed of it was stolen from a different set of beliefs originally anyways.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I couldn't care less about any organized religion and IMO they all do more harm than good; however, being Quebec, this is 100% a poke to flame hatred towards Muslims.... entirely hypocritical

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

How's this going to fly for indigenous symbols?

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[–] 007ace@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It is very interesting to see the pendulum swing. I do find the title misleading as the article appears to only apply to wearing religious symbols and it only applying to new employees as already employed are exempt.

It also doesn't seem to differentiate between public, private or subsidized daycares. Lots of open air in this article.

[–] DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can I ask what pendulum? Because Quebec has been doing this for decades.

Quebec Soccer Federation rever... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-soccer-federation-reverses-turban-ban-1.1319350

[–] 007ace@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 days ago

I think every Canadian sees Quebec marching to the beat of their own drum. I've never seen them vote for any party but Bloc Québécois as long as I've been watching.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm an anti-theist and believe religion does untold damage to society. In my perfect world I'm completely for the removal of all religion iconography in publicly funded institutions. This includes clothing, jewellery, and gaudy John 3:16 t-shirts.

If it's private, do whatever you want. If you want a grotesque image of your dead god on a cross hanging on your wall, you do you. I just don't want to pay for that out of my tax dollars.

That said, I understand people wear a bunch of stupid shit for their gods, and that is a freedom of expression that should be protected. If someone wears a magic cross, bulletproof underwear of protection, or has to hide their hair because their god hates hairdos, then whatever. That in itself probably isn't going to hang black people, start an ethnic genocide, or fly planes into buildings.

As long as these religious kooks don't spout their hateful superstitious bullshit to the kids, I'm fine with it.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Religion is social cancer, and religiously indoctrinating children should count as abuse

It should be illegal for children to practice religion, let them grow into adults, and then they can make their own decisions.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Invisibilising women will only create more hatred and discension. This is not how what you want will work.

And nobodies is practicing religion into a CPE it goes against law already

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Cool, then if it isn't allowed to be practiced in schools, then there's no problem with this, it's just a continuation of existing policy.

There is no world where children being religiously indoctrinated creates LESS hatred and division.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The problem is not practicing, the problem is some faith ask their people to clothe in a certain way.

Invisibilising this people will not bring what the government search

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

You keep using that word like it means anything in this context.

What people do in private is not really enforceable

But in public no religion should be shown prefrence or even respect.

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