It's amazing that they actually designed the beds to fail in the worst possible way. I mean this is cartoon crazy.
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2025
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The only thing my bed has that my previous beds didn't was a removable charging outlet with USBs and stuff. That's it. That requires only electricity and is literally something that could have existed last century with no problem.
I have a Sunbeam heated mattress pad. I like sleeping in a cool room but in a panini press. I'm weird.
So instead of it defaulting to last known good settings, it couldn’t poll AWS to retrieve the user settings and either just went into debug alert mode or the hardcoded defaults are full upright and max temp. More premium products kneecapped by poor management in a race to enshittify everything
$2000 is very mid for a bed.
No it is not.
Check out Sleep Number or Duxiana beds for examples of common beds that start at twice that amount.
What? The frame? The most important part of the bed is the mattress!
Sleep Number, Personal Comfort, and Duxiana are some examples. You can find their stores all over, even in malls, and they are readily available for delivery without waiting for bespoke orders. The frames are often "free" for basic adjustable options in their packaging.
The heck are you talking about. My tuft and needle mint WITH the added cost of extra pillows and a sheet set wasn't even a full $2000 it's one of the best mattresses I've ever seen in my life I've had it for like 5 years now and there's still zero indication of any type of settling or imprinting on the foam, it's the perfect mix of firm supportive but comfortable and shape fitting. And every time I've seen a bed more expensive than that it's felt terrible and basically just been about buying the brand name or some stupid exotic material it's made of
I paid $700 CAD for my king size. You bougie
Perhaps, but it is a fact that several common manufacturers offer discounts or "gift" sheet packages that are more than what you paid for your bed. I'm glad you found what works for you.
Ha, this reminds me of the death of the guy that gave the world lead poisoning.
He also invented CFCs, the chemical that nearly destroyed the earth's protective ozone layer. Quite a guy.
A one man environmental disaster. J. R. McNeill opined that Midgley "had more adverse impact on the atmosphere than any other single organism in Earth's history"
also CFCs!
he was a one-man ecological disaster
His best invention was the bed that killed him! If only those who designed the "smart" beds that need functioning network access (and working AWS) had all been in one.
Never buying smart anything. Wish we could buy a smart president though.
Close your eyes, take a moment and just imagine the engineering culture at Eight Sleep. I'd almost rather be homeless than work there.
Build your shit to be fail safe. The idea that this was less bad if you self hosted is ridiculous. You will have much more outages that way.
You may be right to criticize cloud everything, but as I said, just not the problem here. Only the trigger.
Online first, and they're only now working on offline mode? Okay...
this is worse than getting locked out of your smart oven for not paying subscription
You know this bed is great and all, but what it's really missing is a mandatory connection to the Internet!
...jfc
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People in the 80's: "In the year 2025 we're going to have hoverboards and flying cars!"
2025: "I can't use my bed because the servers are down"
Never buy anything that needs to be connected to a server to work for no good reason.
Smart products themselves are not the issue. The issue is making everything cloud based. The solution is companies designing their products so they can be controlled over the network.
It's a fucking bed! It doesn't need a persistent connection to some server. The problem is that they also want to mine and sell your data.
Smart products are part of the issue, and smart products that fail in dumb ways are a really big part of the issue.
Any smart product, pretty much by definition, has to have a computer in it. Anything with a computer in it can be hacked. There's really no good reason that your bed should have an attack surface.
If you are going to have smarts in something, it really needs to fail well. Like, for a bed, it should have something that bypasses the smarts and lets it go back to "dumb bed" mode no matter what. No matter what position it's in, it should be possible to make it go flat even if you have no Internet connection. In fact, even if the smart parts are not working at all, there should be a way to make it go flat, even if that's a purely mechanical system that allows you to bypass the motors.
The easiest way to implement this is to avoid the IoT entirely. I strive to avoid any smart products that cannot be perpetually used offline (a.k.a. most of them).
It's true, and there's nothing IoT that is absolutely essential. But, if they were secure and safe, there are a lot of IoT things I'd like to have.
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