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How come Star Wars gets a fuck ton of shitty sequels but the first TRON film in 15 years is a flop? I was waiting for this film since I was a child.

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[–] teft@piefed.social 117 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I blame him not saying "It's Tronning time" in the movie.

[–] Drewmeister@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bust down a door and say, "Heeeere's Tronnie!"

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

Its not all letos fault, the movie didn't even have him tron one time. Missed opportunity fr

Then he tronned all over everyone

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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 95 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mostly yes.

I might stream the soundtrack someday, but I'm just not going to pay to see Jared Leto sleepwalk through another performance...

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The film was actually pretty good. I get not liking Jared Leto but he isn't enough to ruin a film for me. Then again, I waited for a franchise revival since I was a kid and now that's dead and done.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

My best friend was looking forward to the movie, until I asked him if Leto being Ares would change his opinion. He was no longer interested from that moment.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jared Leto signed on in 2017. At the time, it made sense. It's Disney's fault for letting production stall for so long.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I waited for a franchise revival since I was a kid and now that's dead and done.

I felt the same way after Tron Legacy. Give it like 15 years and we might get a 3rd soft reboot.

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[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

As someone who loves sci-fi films and the Tron aesthetic, and who generally enjoyed the two previous films, a sequel should have been an easy sell to me.

Unfortunately, the whole "Tron bikes" and "Tron jets" IRL was - to me - such a huge red flag I skipped opening weekend. It gave the feeling of big action set pieces in the real world where the least amount of creative work would be needed and I had no desire to watch the military or the rag tag group of heroes fight computer programs IRL.

My favorite part of Tron was going into a new world and seeing the digital landscape. I want the lore, I want the "computer program's are people and mechanics" vibe, I want the fantasy portion of the sci-fi. I do not need another boring ass marvel / Star wars movie with a Tron paint job.

We need an actual trilogy, an actual story with actual arcs, we need actual stakes. This movie convinced me from its trailer alone that it would say nothing, fail to surprise me, and play out in a safe and predictable fashion and do it in such away that it wouldn't even be fun. I'm all for repetitive dime store movies, but they have to be compelling, well paced, and self-aware. I doubt this movie was any of those.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think the bigger problem is that it's just moved away from what Tron is supposed to be about. Like the whole point of Tron is it happens in the computer world what is the point of bringing it into the real world. Then it's just a weird sci-fi movie with sort of but not really aliens invading, and the market is saturated with sci-fi films with alien invasions.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Disney pulls the plug on Tron after it bombs at the box office.

Disney puts future Tron films on hold after Legacy disappoints.

Disney cancels Tron Uprising after one season due to poor viewership.

Disney cancels Tron 4 after Ares underperforms…

I’m pretty sure the problem is Disney.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Or Tron itself. It's also named in every sentence of yours...

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the same problem that every mid 80's zeitgeist based resurrected IP faces:

The zeitgeist the movie is based on has been dead for at least 30 years.

For Tron, personal computers aren't new anymore. The concept of a digital city is so much less exciting once you've lived with the internet for 20 years and heard mark Zuckerberg wank endlessly about the "metaverse."

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I actually enjoyed this movie. They needed to do marketing, but it came out and I only found out because I get emails from my local indie theater.

Honestly, can they just sell or license Tron to someone who cares about the franchise?

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That question should be asked of every franchise Disney owns.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, if the FCC and FTC weren't controlled by corpocrats, Disney would have been broken up years ago.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, can they just sell or license Tron to someone who cares about the franchise?

PLEASE!!!

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't seen it yet, but have heard the plot wasn't good either. So while he didn't help, many films have shown even having great actors can't rescue a bad movie. He's just the rotting cherry on top of the melted sundae.

[–] teft@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

I saw it. Honestly it was just ok. Nothing to write home about. The soundtrack is pretty decent if you like NIN. Leto is robotic enough to pull off being a just awakened AI. The plot was so-so. I really, really liked Athena and if they do another Tron I hope she comes back but doubtful that will happen. There were some cool fight scenes and new tech. I wish more of the movie was set on the Grid instead of IRL.

IMHO watch a telesync or wait until it's streaming.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Creativity at disney is moribund and nothing can fix it without getting rid of the old dead growth. Get rid of iger and similar execs like kennedy. They degrade any project. They dont love the products they produce. I remember one time kennedy commenting on star wars that there wasn't enough source material. Her problem was she would have to pay for it and thinks the writers are not important. That kind of weak thinking is stagnating disney. It will continue until these fossils are gone.

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

I 1000000000% didn't and won't go see this movie because of him.

And after cancelling D+ and Hulu last month because they fucked up the Kimmel thing, it may be years before I see it, who knows!

But, initially, when I saw Leto in the trailer that was a quick "nope" from me, dawg.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer: Yes, because they made it all about him, and not about any of the previous characters.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The Called it Tron for fucks sake and Tron isn't even in it. It's like making an Indiana Jones movie but you just have some random dude that also happens to be a professor/archeologist or Jaws without a shark. Did Disney just think "oh the world is called Tron" no, Tron is the main character, it's ABOUT Tron. Even Legacy the whole thing was that Tron was corrupted, Flynn was trying to SAVE Tron and then at the end we get the tease that Tron had turned back

But no...the film makers decided "hey remember in Legacy when Sam and Quorra returned to the real world? yeah lets do a film about that but not include Tron...or fuck it lets also skip Sam and Quorra."

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[–] darkmarx@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I'm not a big Leto fan. He's not the worst actor, but he's by no means great. But Gary Oldman couldn't have made this movie work. The problem isn't the acting, it's the script. The movie felt like it was designed and written by a marketing committee. Everything about it is formulaic and hollow.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

That's something that Disney regularly has a problem with. They used to find interesting, compelling stories that writers were excited to create.

Now, most of their films are being pushed from the top to expand their known IPs or messaging. The story has become secondary to the product.

Bob Iger said just a couple years back that they had a few flops with new ideas and we're going to focus on existing IPs and brands. He's leading Disney into a second direct to home video sequel era. Just like the one that nearly killed the company in the 80s.

Disney is riding high on nostalgia and brand recognition but is quickly burning their capital of good will. The youngest generation isnt getting that same nostalgia that's going to turn them into Disney fans like the 90s kids had. We're 30 something's with a bit of disposable income, and Disney is bleeding us dry after making us their primary demographic. They no longer cater to families, and they no longer are looking to make new, young fans.

It's honestly depressing to see how much that company has fallen. I got hired to work at Disneyland back in 2008 and spent 8 years of my life trying to bring happiness to the guests that came there. I agreed with and worked hard to bring their message to life. But in my time there, and since, I've seen a continual shift from taking care of their employees, making it a great place to work, and to make the best entertainment they can.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I myself was hyped until I saw Jared Leto, i just don’t wanna see him in anything

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Tron never was a thing and Disney keeps trying to make it a thing. The concept was cool in the 80s but no one has cared since the property.

I'm just glad Hollywood hasn't made remakes of Flight of the Navigator and Neverending story.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)
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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I hate Jared leto. Still went to see it because I like every other aspect of the film.

I was overall disappointed. Theres loads of good stuff in it. Like lots. One part I audibly went "oh wow that's cool" involuntarily. However, the dialogue absolutely ruined it. And the actor for the main female was somehow more wooden than leto.

When usually, for me, Leto is the worst part of any movie he's in. This time he was fine in it.

Also it ends on cliff hanger. I knew Disney were never going to continue it though like they never properly followed up on legacy. Disney are just too risk averse since to try hard enough to make something good. It's irritating because almost all of the pieces were there, even with leto.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. let's start with that.

After that we can go and have a look at the people green lighting new movies these days.

[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

I liked the previous movies but this just looked like another summer action blockbuster. I don’t see a lot of movies in theaters anymore, though.

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

The original movie was a pretty solid OK. Now we're on a 4th retread of that, why should I care. Plus fuck Disney.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean, I loved the first film, and the second one was the second best daft punk music video (it's not close though) but who really cares? Why did anyone feel like we needed endless shit Tron sequels?

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The second one is a glorious movie to have in 4k bluray when you want to sit there and say "ooooh pretty" for 90 minutes.

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

I went to the cinema to see the original and loved it. It blew my mind. It's iconic.

Then I went to the cinema to watch Legacy and I really enjoyed it. It's not as good as the original but it still had great aesthetics and the music is brilliant.

Then it was "oooh, they are making another one?!! Yes! I can't wait to...what? No, wait. Leto? Really? Oh well, maybe if I'm alive when the next one comes out I'll go see that instead"
The guy, to me, is just plain unlikeable. He's ok in very small bit parts in films, but when he's the main character then I can't watch it. When I go to the cinema I want to be entertained for a few hours, not annoyed.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Disney is to blame for making this crap and screwing an entire legacy for A quick buck.

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[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Something Tron fans seem to forget, and Disney forgets it every so often, the first Tron was a significant failure as well. Yeah, flashy effects and a cool concept, but it wasn't as relevant to a wider crowd yet. And Legacy wasn't exactly a success in the box office either. Many forget that Tron appeals to a smaller crowd and isn't the blockbuster franchise it should be.

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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

TIL we all hate Jared Leto now.

[–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's been despised for many years now

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Disney didn’t know wtf to do with Tron. I thought Legacy was a great addition to the universe, but this time around it was nothing more than skipping to the end of the Marvel universe with the Boss Battle bent on world domination with flashy CGI characters. It added nothing. Plus a controversial actor like Leto might be an indication that nobody else wanted the gig for the budget or the poor writing. Couldn’t have possible chose a worse or more boring addition to the franchise. Ruined it, IMO, and I have been a Tron fan since forever.

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[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 9 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

It's a franchise built on boomer/Gen X understandings of video games and technology. We are in 2025 now, young people don't give a shit about this stuff, yet they still try to pitch these films to a younger audience. The actual base concept of being trapped inside a video game has been incredibly popular with younger audiences in the last decade or so - look at all the stuff that has come out of Japan. The difference is that those films and TV series used modern video games as their inspiration, so younger audiences intuitively understand and connect with their worlds. TRON as a franchise is like some 50-year-old dad forcing his teenager to play some shitty 2D video game whilst rambling about how much fun he had with it back in the day. Your audience doesn't care and it's embarrassing that you haven't worked this out yet.

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