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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 114 points 1 month ago
[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] gray@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I agree, but they don't deserve to be called fundamentalists the way they revise the bible

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

All what this does is whitewash christian fundamentalist atrocities, similarly to how the "um, ackchually, the nazis were socialists" is now giving a green light to the far right of today to repeat hystorical mistakes all across the world.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember, God doesn't make mistakes. So if God made you trans and put you here in this time where you have the options to explore that, well... seems pretty clear to me.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 22 points 1 month ago

It's either all part of God's plan, or none of it is.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait, this depends on how someone views it... If they're a fucking idiot with a child's understanding, a binary reality means it requires altering someones' body to transition. That's the only perspective where it's "modifying" someones' body.

If you're an adult with a developed brain and a basic highschool understanding of genetics, it's not exactly modifying ones' body, but merely influencing hormones to reflect how someone feels.

If you're an adult with a collegiate level of understanding, then people 'feeling' like a different gender is the fucking tip of the iceberg, and genetics fucking demonstrates that it's way more complex.

What is said in the bible, is that reality is more complex than dummies can understand, so leave judging up to God.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There were 2 big things that cover 90% of things Jesus said in the Bible.

  1. love people. Full stop. Yes, them too.
  2. don't listen to hypocrites that make up religious rules and tell you you have to obey them.
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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I'm here struggling to remember when exactly Christians cared about what Jesus told them to do.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Broad strokes... I know plenty of people who are Christians who attend church and hold very progressive views. I'm sorry that your experience with believers has been so poor. Please do try to remember that nobody talks about the person who isn't bothering anyone with their beliefs.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago (19 children)

I mean there is shit like Deuternonom 23, 1

“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

Maybe just don't give a shit about some non-sensical book some dudes in the desert made up.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The verse was meant to discourage religious eunichs, as so many verses were just meant to enact a change within a group of people long ago, the entire book of Deuteronomy for instance was telling Jews a specific code to live by, including sanitation and hygiene laws. Good way to encode your culture's safeguards, bad way to ensure their future peace.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah sure, all the uncomfortable verses always mean something different while all the positive verses are true and valid even without context.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i mean it's a little outdated

but some of the lines are fire

"easier for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than a rich person to get into heaven" and "love thy neighbor" were good

maybe it's time for a rewrite

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I think Leviticus has some lines about protecting immigrants, too.

[–] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

maybe it's time for a rewrite

with ray tracing?

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 4 points 1 month ago

and an AI chatbot powered by Bing

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[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Deuteronomy more like Neuteronomy

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[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

MAGA is just #newchristian hate

There’s a version of the bible they’ve been pushing that adds some “truth” to these nasty attitudes. And people love to shove it in your face “see!?! It’s printed here, it has to be true!!!”

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Goddamn I love that shit. You know how many times I've been told I'm wrong for being an Atheist because "the Bible says God is real!" That line never gets old, I tell ya what.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Jesus said nothing about people transitioning and gender, but IIRC early and medieval Christian scholars condemned bodily modifications because the body was God's creation and property and it ought to be kept intact for resurrection.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Christian scholars condemned bodily modifications because they wanted to control your body instead.

Always has been.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's basically all of major religions. Their rationale was resurrection and the rapture.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So the magaTs are now anti modification but still completely fine with mutilating young males with circumcisions. Yeah, checks out for more insanity form the cult.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

The one thing brain worms McGee could have done and gotten a nod from me, and he fucked it up by throwing autism in there! Seriously though, I'm so glad my mom is as bull headed as she is and told the hospital staff to fuck off when they were pushing for that shit.

Like why is a cereal manufacturer still having us mutilate newborns?

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's silly because maga women are getting boob jobs and maga men are getting hair transplants

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Maga men also are much more likely to take steroids and/or penis pills. And let's talk about semiglutides. For people who think modern medicine is evil, and all doctors and pills are trying to kill you, they sure are conveniently unaware of their own convictions when it comes to vanity.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

"Man, how much waters did I have last night"

-Jesus (probably)

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Well, I can’t remember exactly where but I know it’s in there somewhere.

[–] individual@toast.ooo 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

he can't remember because he never existed

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He probably existed and if he did was most likely a great speaker but his stories are at least massively embellished.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair, as long as they don't crossdress, don't have gay sex and don't undergo genital surgery, they should be in the clear.

So as a trans person you're allowed to... change your name and pronouns? I think that's it, as far as the Bible goes.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The Bible old and New testament is trans affirming although it has some passages against homosexuality. In fact the old testament says that eunuchs are allowed and even favored in heaven, but aren't allowed in temples. Jesus says that some people are made that way, some born that way, and some choose to be that way to serve God, but doesn't create a strong requirement to be kind to them, rather saying, those who can understand this should understand it. So both God and Jesus are trans affirming and says so in the Bible, but a man should not lay with another man and also there is a verse about a man should t wear the clothes of a woman, but I don't think that would apply to eunarchs which are not considered men or women or to have a gender.

This is actually a pretty cool loophole for gay people. If you are a bottom you could just become trans if you have to live in a religiously oppressive society. It gives at least one pathway to happiness and love, but I know there are many gay people who prefer to be masculine while also homosexual.

As a trans person I don't believe in religion myself but I do pray to God. Maybe an old habit. My idea of God isn't a skypervert, and authoritarian but more like a friendly spirit who helps people who have good hearts and teaches wisdom to those who have dark hearts, but still stay aligned with the ineffable platonic good.

Even as a child it always seemed really silly to me that a god would care about who you love or what you wore. That never made any sense to me. I always assumed God was more intelligent than your average human. People who believe those things are not really believers in my opinion. All their assumptions are obviously coming from a place of, not actually believing in God, but wanting to use it as a tool to hurt people they don't like. I see a totally different perspective. To me those people seem miserable and suffering in their own confusion and I always considered that to be justice for their own shittiness and their audacity to badmouth God out of their cynicism. God usually doesn't punish much, he will sometimes destroy, but when people abuse his name and know him not, then it's kind of fair game. They are in his debt and owe him for the trouble they cause him.

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[–] kofe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, changing pronouns is compelling speech according to evangelical extremists. Oh and changing your name should only apply to last name's of women and young girls getting married, cuz we gotta keep in mind however many states still allow child marriage.

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[–] WaitThisIsntReddit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not sure you want to appeal to the contents of the Bible. I'm sure somewhere in their fairy tale being trans is a sin.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

God is trans by common definition; not male or female, both, neither. God is non-binary.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

If those people could read that, they would be very upset

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They probably couldn't imagine such a thing to make it a sin. Evidence: because they totally would have.

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