It also just feels weird to make a choice that itself is likely to promote war. Trump is seemingly too stupid to immediately capitalize on this, but raising Venezuela's dictatorship up to being the most important dictatorship in the world and then praising someone in favor of military intervention by a country currently trying to spark a war for repressive purposes seems incredibly irresponsible for a committee seeking to promote "peace".
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It is honestly a shockingly myopic call from them, I agree
She's a mouthpiece for the corrupt ollgarchy that ran Venezuela before Chavez took over. She's kissing Bolsonaro's and Trump's asses in hopes that they might help make her Venezuela's Pinochet.
And the Nobel Committee can do one.
Well, Venezuela has fuckloads of oil that isn't going to the USA, so...
Hence why if trump was smart enough to capitalize, he’d be invading the country by now. She’s giving him the green light
And the Nobel committee is sanctifying her as a saint of peace and democracy and her positions as inherently moral.
It seems like a very classical liberal move to shy away from outright embracing the fascists, but thinking if they just support them where their interests converge they can guide them from the shadows to deal with their problems.
She's supposedly an opposition leader trying to jumpstart democracy, yet she invites external aggression which makes people crazy enough to tear down existing democratic institutions. Her dictatorship is going to crumble so she needed to prop it up with the spectre of US aggression?
I always assumed these cases were somewhat proactive. Here’s someone who said something about peace and is in a position to make it happen. Let’s try to shame them into it
On Friday, Machado dedicated the prize to US President Donald Trump and the people of Venezuela, saying, “I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to President Trump for his decisive support of our cause”.
Fucking disgusting. How the fuck did she win the fucking peace prize?
Ikr? Everyone knows the Nobel peace prize should only go to upstanding global citizens like Henry Kissinger and Menachem Begin.
I dunno who Menachem is, but I can only assume they're also a war criminal like Kissinger. The older I get, the fewer things and people seem to have any integrity. I'm fucking sick of finding out things or people that were supposedly paragons of morality are just as broken and corrupt as everything else. Nothing in this world is actually what it claims to be. 😬
Enjoy. Long story short, though: Former terrorist (as in literally the leader of Igrun), founder of Likud and former Israeli PM. He got the prize with Sadat after signing the peace treaty with Egypt and proceeded to bomb Iraq and invade Lebanon three years later.
founder of likud
Its always compelling to play "evil" bingo. And I always find myself guessing too tame compared to reality.
Because it’s literally a newspeak prize. They gave one to Obama and fucking Henry Kissinger, whose death count is only rivaled by maybe Gangus Khan.
Disgusting choice from the committee, although it's nothing new for them to award it to bad people.
The Norwegians really need to brush up on their Swedish because this choice (one among many) goes directly against Alfred Nobels wishes.
Which wish does this go against, specifically? I'm uneducated in his wishes and wish to know more.
Edit: K? Down votes for wanting to know more? Neat.
“The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows: /- – -/ one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.” (Excerpt from the will of Alfred Nobel)
Machado spends pretty much each breath calling for war.
Thank you very much for the quote!
Yeah that does look very anti noble/Nobel, doesn't it. 😐
Yeah. What exactly is the criteria for winning one of these, anyway?
Does it matter anymore? Henry Kissinger won it, for fucks sake. This is the second time that I'm aware of someone winning the prize where it almost feels sarcastic. We live in opposite land.
The Nobel prize is meaningless.
It's meta like everything else. Sure, there are relatively simple rules that ought to lead to obvious, inexorable outcomes. But people are in charge and they're thinking: But what would it mean?
Give the Peace Prize to Putin! Maybe it will slow him down.
Give the Peace Prize to Kissinger! Maybe our empathetic embrace will soften his demeanor.
Give the Peace Prize to a conservative nut job. Let's throw in some support for fostering democratic values.
Promoting Western imperialism seems to be the main one. The postmodern West loves to make fun of human values by giving a "peace prize" to pillaging murderers, lol.
Idk the exact criteria but being a war criminal gets you fast-tracked.
The Nobel Peace Price is purely political and a big joke for decades already.
She also thanked President Trump
I think the Nobel Peace Prize means about as much as a Kennedy Center honor now
I think that the #NobelPrize was probably irrpearably tarnished when they gave one to Henry Kissinger.
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