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ITT: linux users overthinking an anti-meme
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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You guys dont turn off your laptops?
Isn't it bad for the pc?
Oh my soul is too old lol
What you guys do instead?
Gotta keep that uptime, leave it on
Walk into an average mega corp office that is full of windows desktops, after everyone has left. Every pc is still on.
We mandate that ours are left on for orchestration and maintenance purposes.
On like, suspend or hibernate?
I am afraid to put my lap on suspend overnight.
Hibernate is actually usefull if you have hectic works on standby and have to shutdown
Just regular suspend.
Oh! I should turn off my laptop. Thx for the reminder
Yes. Same here. Leaving it on for another month would have been unreasonable.
Yeah, if I'm not using the computer I turn it off because why would I be wasting electricity? So it's the same for windows or linux to me. You do need to reboot your computer sometimes anyway. For linux it's when you update the kernel. For windows you just have to reboot for similar reasons or after you've spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why something isn't working and then in desperation "try turning it off and turning it back on again". Better to just turn it off when you're done using it and turn it on when you need it again and many of those issues are avoided completely.
So I turn off my computer when I'm not using it and I save power AND so the computer doesn't get glitchy. It doesn't take much time for the computer to boot up, so there's not much reason to not just turn it off when I'm not using it.
For linux, its when you update the kernel.
May I introduce kexec
It doesn't really do a lot for most people since you just skip UEFI initialization, which yeah does save a lot of time but you still need to restart all your processes
Now my system uptime will be his entire lifespan
I relate to this about 20 years or more ago.
Not so much nowadays, but we remember!
But by the time the lid is up to reach the power button, it's already out of sleep and operationalβ¦
Meanwhile, my work Windows laptop is significantly slower to wake up now as I'm forced to hibernate it thanks to them removing S3 sleep in favor of the modern standby shit.
I remember when windows used to brag about incredibly fast boot times.
Now, my 5 yo gaming PC takes about 30 seconds to wake up to the password screen. While my Linux laptop takes 15 seconds to go from cold start to desktop.
For me I can reach the windows desktop in around 14 or 15 seconds (auto login), for most people the biggest bottleneck is a slow bios.
Linux and windows normally have very similar boot times at least on my hardware.
5600X
B550 AORUS ELITE
Intel 660p
@Sustolic @VitoRobles 15 years ago initng in linuxmint was doing magic; booting system to gnome2 desktop in 3 seconds from grub. On PCs with intel motherboard this was about 4 seconds from poweron. And moreover, this was on HDD.
Now all systems are bloated and cannot boot in 3 seconds even on SSD
My 10yo gaming PC is probably "faster" to boot because it is set up to auto logon without password promt so it boots straight to desktop without any interruptions while my Linux laptop has pre-boot-authentication and then normal login. But between these two password promts is basically no time at all
Lucky you! Mine just crashes when I try to enter Sleep mode leaving both screens on and frozen, and nothing at all working.
Maybe try the kernel parameter amd_iommu=off if you have an AMD CPU (and you're talking about Linux and not Windows). I had the same problem and this fixed it for me.
Hey, thanks! Unfortunately, I'm a very new Linux user (190 days according to fish), so I've no idea how or where I would set that parameter.
The problem is that by the time I have said that to them it's already to desktop. I cursed Myself by having an operating system that is fast and efficient and I also did not install 18 different applications that open at boot. So now I just feel left out from the group not waiting for my computer to finish booting :(
First of all, our computers are always on. Those kernels don't compile themselves, three times a day. Secondarily we could, at least, turn our machines on without having to install a dozen of updates before having to reboot again.
I knew there had to be a different reason for global warming. Linux users don't turn off their computers, thats why!
If systems that run Linux were to power down, that's it for almost all of the internet.
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Is the joke that hibernate and sleep states never seem to work right?
Despite OP insisting otherwise, I'm gonna assume you are correct. I use a lot of flavors of linux for a lot of things, but I don't have it on a laptop (other than as an alt boot in case of a crash), so it seems logical to me that's why this joke went over my head.
It was mostly because of Nvidia drivers. So many Linux issues is just Nvidia related.
Bs, I have had so many sleep issues on laptops without Nvidia graphics cards.
The most recent issue I had was something inhibiting sleep that I couldn't disable.
Before that it was being unable to decrypt the hibernate data on an encrypted disk.
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No its an antimeme. The joke is that everybody gotta turn it on.
sleep and hibernate work fine on linux. I remember the olden days like 15 years ago where nothing of it worked. contrary to the stupid macos that was forced onto me which sleep means nothing and just keeps draining my bluetooth headphones battery anyway instead of turning off when I tell it to.
Absolutely not. Nvidia GPUs and some network cards can and will break sleep on Linux. It's currently very much broken on my machine and I stopped trying to fix it. Up until a few days ago the PC failed to properly power down to a sleep state and would leave a whole bunch of things powered up, like the monitor and the fans and the lights. Now it's even worse. On top of all that, the computer goes right back into sleep seconds after it wakes up. Extremely annoying.
I use arch btw.
I still have issues on two separate machines. One won't hibernate sometimes, I suspect the nvidia card. The other has a new-ish ethernet card, which doesn't work after waking from hibernation (unless I reload the kernel module)
What's the point of hibernation? You have so much stuff open in some exact state you can't just turn off the computer?
It takes less time for me to boot fresh than to resume from hibernation (32GB of RAM)
Yes. I leave my laptop running in the office overnight, and at the end of the day I have a bunch of note documents, papers, code editors, and corresponding plots open and arranged among multiple monitors. It's extremely annoying to re-do this setup the next day, so I leave it running. If hibernation worked reliably, I could turn the machine off at the end of the day.
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Uptime is 99.99%, gotta reboot sometimes.
Ksplice would like to have a word
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