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[–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I asked ChatGPT what would happen. Here you go:

If every atom in the universe suddenly gained one extra electron, the result would be instant, universe-ending chaos — in less than a nanosecond. Here’s why:

1. Universal Negative Charge Imbalance

Right now, matter is electrically neutral — the positive charges in nuclei balance the negative charges of electrons. Adding one electron to every atom makes every single atom negatively charged. The universe instantly becomes dominated by repulsive electrostatic forces.

Coulomb’s law tells us electric forces are ~10³⁶ times stronger than gravity. That means: • Atoms would violently repel each other. • Molecules couldn’t hold together. • Planets, stars, and galaxies — all held together by gravity — would be ripped apart by overwhelming electrostatic repulsion.

Within moments, all normal matter disintegrates into a plasma of electrons and nuclei being hurled away from each other.

2. Collapse of Atomic and Molecular Structure

Each atom now has one more electron than its nucleus can bind: • The extra electron would either occupy a weakly bound outer orbital or be completely unbound. • Chemical bonds depend on balanced electron sharing — those would fail instantly. • Solids, liquids, and gases all cease to exist in recognizable form.

Essentially, chemistry ends. There’s no more “matter” in the familiar sense — just a roiling cloud of charged particles.

3. Energy Release on an Unimaginable Scale

The addition of an electron to every atom requires — or releases — colossal energy, depending on the element and context: • Ionization energies and electron affinities differ between atoms. • You’re effectively forcing a global-scale electron capture reaction.

But the real kicker is that the sudden Coulomb repulsion between everything would dwarf any nuclear explosion imaginable. The entire universe’s matter would “explode” outward — far beyond the speed of galactic escape velocities — powered by the electrostatic potential energy now released.

4. No Stable Matter, No Light, No Universe

With matter annihilated into a universal electron-ion plasma: • Photons would scatter off free charges (via Thomson scattering). • The universe would become completely opaque. • Eventually, as it expands and cools, you might end up with diffuse clouds of charged particles, but never stable atoms again.

You’d basically reset the universe to something like an ultra-energetic pre-recombination plasma — except with the wrong charge balance and no chance of re-neutralizing.

In short:

Adding one extra electron to every atom would: • Destroy all atomic and molecular structure. • Overwhelm gravity entirely. • Convert the universe into a high-energy, negatively charged plasma. • Likely erase all physical structures — stars, planets, life, everything — in an instant.

It’s not a slow catastrophe; it’s an immediate, total one.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This reminds me of the sketch from Chris and Jack, where one person tries to outsmart a genie with the perfect wish and almost succeeds, but ultimately fails.

Chris n Jack are hilarious!

Fun fact : Jack is Jack de sena - Voice actor of sokka from Avatar the Last Airbender.

They have cameos from other voice actors from the show as well in their skits.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

1.) I wish the speed of light were 60 MPH.

2.) I wish nothing could travel slower than light.

3.) I wish for the genie's freedom.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 8 points 1 day ago
  1. Granted. The definition of a mile is now 1/60th of the distance travelled by light in an hour.
  2. This is already the case, as matter travels through time and space at the speed of light. The speed of light is the only speed, the only variable is how much of that speed is used in space or time.
[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

Sounds like a case for xkcd's what if

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Did someone read The Laundry Files? What you are describing is approximately used in making a Basilisk Gun

[–] kittehx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 220 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Wish granted: the same electron is added to all atoms in the universe.

This one single electron is created in a quantum state described by a wave function that is uniformly distributed over every atom in the universe. This wave function collapses nearly instantaneously to a single position, and the end result is that one random atom in the entire universe gains one electron.

Nothing of interest happens.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can the wish include a --dry-run option before going for it fully?

That's the Chris and Jack sketch currently listed above somewhere in this thread on my client.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

go with the one electron theory, how can you add an elecron to every atom when there's already only one electron in the whole universe.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well now there are two electrons in the universe and their job is way easier.

except that in the single electron theory, all electrons and positrons are the same object going back and forth through time, bouncing from the end of the universe and the big bang, adding another electron might double the mass in the universe

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 103 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Considering how intentionally malecious the side effects of typical genie-wishes tend to be, the extra electron probably comes to rest in the wishers hypophysis and causes a free radical that leads to a rare sort of cancer that prevents the wisher from falling asleep ever again, so he dies in madness scratching out his own eyes.
0r something similar along that line.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

0r something similar along that line.

I'm really bothered by that zero 0 instead of an o O.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, you are right...
Sorry, handwriting recognition sometimes has its own mind.
And this error must have slipt my prove reading as it is just too well camouflaged...

[–] SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Using a drawing pad for typing, and spelling the word “slipt” !?! could a prophet truly be among us???

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[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The genie granted two wishes at once. The other was from a speed runner.

https://www.thegamer.com/how-ionizing-particle-outer-space-helped-super-mario-64-speedrunner-save-time/

During the race, an ionizing particle from outer space collided with DOTA_Teabag's N64, flipping the eighth bit of Mario's first height byte. Specifically, it flipped the byte from 11000101 to 11000100, from "C5" to "C4". This resulted in a height change from C5837800 to C4837800, which by complete chance, happened to be the exact amount needed to warp Mario up to the higher floor at that exact moment.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The real question isn't if the universe ends...

It's if the genie magic expands outward from the source at the speed of light, or if it's instantaneous everywhere, which would allow information to be transmitted faster than the speed of light, allowing for violations of causality, and destroying our fundamental understanding of the universe before we all died.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This assumes the genie doesn't have access to some weird higher-reality or higher-"dimensional" power. For instance, if the universe is a simulation, then perhaps the genie has access to a console.

[–] NichtElias@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And you don't call discovering that the universe is a simulation "destroying our fundamental understanding of the universe"?

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

Yes and no. Nothing that we know about the universe preclude it being a simulation, so learning only that it is a simulation is more expanding out fundamental understanding of the universe. However, as things stand, we are pretty damn convinced that nothing violates causality while following the internal rules of the universe, so if the genie did that without invoking some power we might call "outside the universe", then we learn that the universe can internally violate causality - THAT might destroy our fundamental understanding of the universe.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

real question, is there a difference?

In theory yes, but for any observer, it won't matter and it's all the same to them, as they cannot observe any difference in either case.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not if the universe is inside the genie.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's genies all the way down.

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[–] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

my wish is to change the mass of the proton.

[–] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)
[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What will 1 extra electron do? Destroy universe?

Is it like every Proton has an anti-proton and if it wasnt perfectly balanced the universe would fall apart? Ive heard something like that before...

or would mess with the chemical bonds of all chemistry, likely breaking up every single molecule into individual atoms, immediately killing everyone and destroy everything

[–] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 day ago

Lots of things become conductive.

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It'll be like a Coulombic explosion, but with an excess of negative instead of positive charges.
Everywhere in the universe where matter forms lumps, they would disintegrate.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

just choose an electron somewhere random in the universe, and declare said electron to be the legal property of every atom in the universe. problem solved

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Turns out, there's a rule against exterminating all life in the universe with a wish, but the genie doesn't know what an electron is or what adding one to every atom will do, so you've found yourself a loophole.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm a physicist, not a genie, and I have no fucking clue what adding an electron to every atom would do. I can't even begin to fathom the question.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't know either, I just think the consequences would be universally negative.

Whatever it is that happens, it would be pretty violent.
"What If" had a slightly different, more localized but more concentrated premise it covered once:
Electron Moon

Quote:
"This is, by far, the most destructive What-If scenario to date."

break all chemical bonds immediately, there will probably be further consequences regarding a universal electron imbalance, but we would already be atomised

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is there an XKCD What If about this? Sounds exactly like that territory.

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