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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Hyperland sounds more like edgelords.

The DHH fellow is a full on Nazi-style racist.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah the hyprland guys are fucking bigots, not just edgy kids.

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[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 49 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What? I am relatively new to knowing and talking with DHH, but I have not seen anything he has said that would lend credence to what you are saying here. Furthermore these are heavy accusations. I see zero shred of evidence on the internet or revolving around Omarchy. I haven’t see a single negative thing coming out of my discourse around Omarchy. The focus is software excellence, and it is awesome.

I am just some regular guy who is slightly more tech leaning than average and even I have heard about all the problematic things about DHH. Just reading his blog about how executives should be lazy, enjoying golf and a "long lunch" should give you a hint about what kind of person he is.

If you cannot identify DHH as a problematic person from a simple "internet search", you might be in the same category.

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[–] Aetherion@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this thread makes me throw up.

Guess we will go back to classic used hardware?

And if someone here has a comprehensive guide at hand to completely decouple from big tech to sustainable human tech I would be very pleased (if not no problem I'm still planning to create a good working guide myself).

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Used thinkpads are cheaper and reuse is one of the best ways to reduce ewaste by using something that was headed to the landfill. I've been happy with my t480s.

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[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If DHH's wet dream comes true Nirav would be back in India no matter how much money he gives him.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 24 points 2 days ago

Ugh I hate reading threads like that, the amount of delusion, stupidity and ignorance really gives me no hope for humanity.

Just vile people, fuck off fascists.

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the problem with the "we're not talking about politics in here" approach. A lot of smaller companies, entities, "influencers"... will attempt to become apolitical, a ploy to market to as many people as possible, but it's ill advised. You have to make your beliefs actually clear from the start. And after a certain size, you must avoid becoming too personal about things. Get a PR specialist if you can, even. It'll save a lot of headache to kearn you can't please everybody, and there'll always be someone dissatisfied with you, so you better choose early who they'll be.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the problem with the “we’re not talking about politics in here” approach.

Vulnerable minorities are always "political."

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[–] FEIN@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hold the phone, since when were Hyprland devs like this?

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[–] rozodru@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago

I don't use Hyprland (honestly it's still a buggy mess and the $5 a month for "hyprland premium" is a joke), I won't ever use Omarchy (I already know how to install Arch), and I guess I just won't use Framework anymore. That's it.

If other people want to use that crap and support it? sure, have at it. I won't lose sleep over it. I would much rather people stop hailing these things as the greatest achievements in FOSS and Linux when they're clearly not. I mean christ on a cracker people are treating Omarchy like it's the second coming and it's just an Arch installer with hyprland, a bunch of cherry picked applications and a fancy TUI styler. that's it.

Oh wait, sorry, Omarchy also has a hyrpland keybind set to open X/Twitter for you....groundbreaking.

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