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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] Aetherion@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this thread makes me throw up.

Guess we will go back to classic used hardware?

And if someone here has a comprehensive guide at hand to completely decouple from big tech to sustainable human tech I would be very pleased (if not no problem I'm still planning to create a good working guide myself).

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Used thinkpads are cheaper and reuse is one of the best ways to reduce ewaste by using something that was headed to the landfill. I've been happy with my t480s.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lots of laptops are just as repairable as a framework if you don't mind using a screwdriver. Just watch a teardown video before you buy. I've only ever owned Dells and Thinkpads, but both have been super easy to work on.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It does vary. My Thinkpad (T490s) is awful if you want to do more than replace the battery and main drive, despite being a used office machine.

To replace the keyboard for example, you basically have to disassemble the entire laptop, since the frame is a single unit, and the keyboard sits under it, sandwiched under the motherboard and case.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most laptops from the last 10 years have soldered components.

And most old computers don't run or are useful for many current day needs.

If people can buy and reuse refurbished hardware, cool, go for it, but don't live under the illusion that it's an alternative.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Mine's from 2023, and tbh it's just as repairable as my old Dell latitude from 2011. Even a lot of the ports come on little boards separate from the motherboard. The only big thing soldered on I see is the cpu. I'm not saying this is universal, we're certainly trending away from laptops like this, but it's not like they don't exist, they're just not as chic