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The project, developed in partnership with veteran free software developer Rob Savoye, aims to create a fully free and open mobile platform, from the firmware to the operating system.

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[–] Patariki@feddit.nl 107 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I salute the early adopters who will suffer all the inconveniences of startups so the wider public can enjoy a non-corporate phone in the future. o7

[–] schema@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm looking forward to get one of these just to play around with it, and maybe making some custom stuff for it.

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 172 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I won't hold my breath, but it's sorely needed, so, we can hope.

[–] Maybelline@lemmy.zip 96 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That's funny. I can't hold my width.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Sometimes I can’t hold my ~~heigdth~~ depth.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

You are all out of line

[–] Redkey@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Some people can hold their length, but only in private.

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[–] pigup@lemmy.world 95 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I want a Linux phone so bad that I refuse to think about what it would be like because i'd be upset afterwards.

[–] fleg@szmer.info 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I have an original PinePhone. The phone itself is horribly outdated and slow, but the software itself (Phosh+Gnome) is suprisingly okay. Given a good enough phone (as in hardware) I can see myself actually using it and not being annoyed more than I was with early Androids.

Unfortunately what I understand is that FSFE doesn't intend to do hardware, only software platform, so I wonder whether they'll come up with anything interesting.

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[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Tell me more about the phone! This has taken so long and I am ready to migrate to an open phone even if it's only for texting at this point.

Screw this OS monopoly by Apple and Alphabet.

Open to simple solutions here. I have a Pixel 4a 5g and iPhone 15 Pro* atm.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

your pixel probably runs graphene, degoogle it.

you could probably run linux on it today too.

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 61 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I hope they can pull this off because we really need this.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 51 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Linux mobile phones are the fusion power of the FOSS world, always "right around the corner."

All the pieces are there, but none of them work together smoothly enough to be functional for anybody except the most hardcore FOSS enthusiasts.

When Proton started, it was kind of a joke, killed the Steam Machine idea in large part because the game compatibility was so limited. A decade later, we have a multi billion dollar handheld PC market lead by the Steam Deck, a Linux handheld that can play tens of thousands of Windows games without issue, in some cases with better performance than their native platform.

So it's certainly possible for things to completely change, but we need a big player or consortium of players to unite with a shared goal of getting a Linux Phone to the state where it's genuinely able to replace a traditional Android or Apple phone.

I'm very cautiously optimistic, I think it would come together much faster than Proton did for Linux gaming, but again, there needs to be a really heavy push into a singular device to start off. Like how the Steam Deck was, it allowed devs to have a singular platform to target for compatibility. Then, as the platform matures, competitors & innovators can enter the market and expand options, like how now there are multiple distros with builds for handhelds, like Bazzite, Nobara, and CachyOS.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At this point I would not be surprised if steam built on top of the deck idea and the support it already provides for fairly responsive and configurable inputs, touch screen included, to launch a steam phone or something.

I mean deck isn’t all that far from having such a device. For the actual phone network stack they would likely just partner up with someone already in the space.

They’ve already had to tackle powering a lightweight portable device with a touch screen and adapting the UX for a small screen and non-kbd input. They’ve already established they can source parts and mass produce a competively priced device.

But realistically I can’t see it being that much better than the recent Linux phone offerings.

[–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

None of what you described is an issue with Linux phones.

We need open firmware for broadbands.

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[–] lennee@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago

gimme gimme

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 36 points 6 days ago

Oooh, I wonder if they're going to pursue a free phone based on Risc-V. It's a longshot but if they pull that off, it'd be like feeding two birds with one scone.

[–] unexpected@forum.guncadindex.com 49 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I'm celebrating!

As a linux phone guy this is good news. Any more pushing towards a more solid linux phone environment is a big plus.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 21 points 5 days ago
[–] hereforawhile@lemmy.ml 41 points 6 days ago
[–] Ultraword@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 days ago

I really hope this is super based

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 35 points 6 days ago

Honestly as long as they can fucking get something moderately priced that supports VOLTE and a decent camera I’ll buy it

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

Hopefully this will recruit projects that already have significant headstart, such as Pine64. Otherwise, it would merely be performative.

[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

I've got a Google Pixel 3a with postmarketOS installed on it right now for testing, and it really is a two-pronged issue with both hardware and software. Because it's an older phone the battery drains within a few hours, nowhere close to all-day use. Because most of the software is designed for the desktop certain things are just impossible to use (the big pain point for me is Anki, but on the other hand it's impressive how many GTK apps conform very nicely to the screen). The keyboard still feels pretty rough.

Hopefully the FSF dipping their hat into the ring will help existing projects like this in a rising-tide-raises-all-ships sort of way. Would be a shame for them to put effort into a software stack that goes nowhere (GNU Hurd), and pour $$$ into a hardware project that doesn't make it to market or doesn't do its job better than a cracked smartphone from 5+ years ago.

I think it is possible to switch to it now and have things mostly work out for you, but it will make your life harder. I remember switching to Ubuntu around 2010 and it's almost to that level of experience. You'll be giving up a lot, apps you "need" won't work, but it's at the point where it is a complete usable experience. For those that are willing to suffer for FOSS, I mean.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I'd rather see a stable OS and ecosystem for good, Free apps that we can flash onto existing devices. I'm quite happy with my Fairphone (repairable! modular! ethical!) and we know that building and marketing a device is painfully expensive.

Let's make Debian or Arch just work on most phones instead of trying to compete in a saturated market.

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[–] this@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My hopes and my expectations could not be more at odds with each other, and the only thing I know for sure is that one of them will be smashed.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Just because it's a libre phone, doesn't mean it's necessarily a linux phone. Or at least any more so than Android is a linux phone because it uses a heavily modified (almost unrecognizable) linux kernel.

There's nothing in the article that says they're just going to use a mainline linux kernel and throw a touch optimized version of some existing desktop on it (ubuntu touch, etc...)

Heck, they could be meaning that they're planning on making their own heavily modified kernel for their very own OS so as to skip all of the trouble that trying to make mainline linux into a handheld device has been so far. (similar to I believe how SailfishOS is doing it)

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Please god, help me find my keys! Tell St. Anthony I need my keys!

Also could you make this Foss phone be real and reasonably priced below the cost of a gaming PC?

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

I can't find any links to the project itself, only to announcements about the project. Anybody have anything more concrete? How far along is this project?

[–] Coopr8@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

For all of those following, I emailed Rob and he confirmed that the focus of the project to start is reverse engineering binary blobs on existing android devices, but he is currently only at the discovery phase of picking which phones to start with. He is first checking LineageOS compatible phones using his toolset here: https://codeberg.org/rsavoye/librephone/src/branch/main/doc/index.md

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Let's hope this lights a fire under Google's ass too, so everyone can have free and open phones.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

F-droid maybe we'll find a new good home then?

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

The only way to sucdeed here is to legally force all phones to have unlocked bootloader.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 6 days ago

I'll use my de-Googled and update-blocked S23 until it's physically unable to boot up, and hopefully by then I'll find something that can run this OS, assuming it's ready

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