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Is that amount of time common to walk in places in the world where cars don't dictate the layout of the community?

Im going to be making this walk tomorrow, no worries, I'm just curious if its normal in other places. Maps says its 1hour15minues for 2.3miles or 3.7Km.

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[–] spinda@leminal.space 2 points 18 hours ago

I think the most I would walk is around 40-45 minutes. So no, 1h15m would be far too long to justify walking. Maybe on the weekend if the library was super nice?

[–] citizensongbird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I'd walk that for pleasure, but not for work. Time for you to get a bike.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 23 hours ago

I would ride a bike. But generally yes, an hour to get across town is normal and not the crazy thing car brains imagine it to be.

[–] happydoors@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If I had no responsibilities for the day I would walk that but if I had anything else it would add up too much

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 1 points 23 hours ago

i try to walk 4 miles a day and often i burn those miles going to the library

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where I grew up it was about a 45 minute walk to the library. I went maybe twice a year.

Now I'm about 15 minutes from the library and I'm there weekly.

Its a perfectly fine walk to go that far, it just kinda blows to do it regularly

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

I used to live in a city where it was 15 minutes to the library, but the walk was awful. No trees, ugly houses, then near a major road. There was homeless tents and no alternatives.

My new place, the walk is gorgeous. Trees, dog walkers, houses with so many ecofriendly gardens. It takes about 30 minutes. But a fraction of the time on a bike.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

4km / >30 mins is ok for 2x per month - but get a bike, that's a 15 min ride - just l9ng enough for casual excessive.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Bus or bike distance.

But i also walk closer to 3mph so maybe it would be on the edge of the weather is nice.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

For me everything more than 10' of walking from my home is a bike default. Except i need to transport bulky equipment or it rains very strongly. Then its walking with umbrella + bus/train. (I dont own a car, as I live in a City.)

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

No, I wouldn't. For daily needs, the walk needs to be less than 10 minutes. Weekly less than 20, and anything over that needs to be a special thing. I know the pain of lugging back groceries and a heavy load of books on what was a 20 minute walk one way. Those get a bike with luggage, or the scooter.

I think my requirements would be the same if I had to use a car, actually. An hour trip to see relatives is a once a month/every two months thing.

Hell no. Maybe if it was a really nice weather, but I would still go home with a bus or a tram, no way I'll carry books that long.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What stops to put a tram there? Or bike there? Thats then 10-20 minutes from my experience

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There really could be a tram there. It's my pike dream.

Cars rule everything here. :(

Fat Americans... Right. But they forbid walking for day to day life, make it hostile basically anywhere that isn't a major city, and even there it kind of sucks to walk/take the bus/ride a bike.

There's density here, Universities, my husband works at one of them, he leaves an extra 30 minutes early for work everyday, because parking is such a bitch up there they fight for spots(workers have to pay for a parking pass too!). My son can't even ride his bike to a park or to school. I can't tell you how much I hate it. I'm literally trapped unless I have a car. We won't be able to move somewhere walkable that dream is dead.

I was fit when I rode my bike to work, back in the day in my states capital. My grandfather was a civil engineer who helped design this hell. I will always hate him. I don't have the freedom of movement unless I was to dodge cars going 60mph, and be the only person on the sandy street, where people just stare at you like you're poor from their cars.

Anyway. Ugh. I can hope for changes in the future, but that is becoming very bleak each day.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I knowww right? Im not from america but when ever i see that something around the corner is a 160 minutes walk is CRAZY! Even here in german country side you have to rely on cars to even get anywhere outside the villages!! One should have the right, to get to anywhere with public transport and not be reliant on private tools!

I dont get the whole "cars give you freedom" argument.

How are you indipendent if you are trapped in a metal cage you cant move around in? Dependend on so many companies, mechanics, oil, licensing, insurance and all that you pay yourself!!

I once met one that tried to argue car dependence is good because since you force people to spend their money on all that is good for the economy. I am NOT KIDDING!

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The "cars give you freedom" argument also completely breaks apart if you stop to think about the millions of people who can't drive, such as children and blind people, who are forced to rely on someone else taking them everywhere because they can't walk without getting run over and public transport is nonexistent.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

It's only "freedom" if you can afford it.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

It SHOULD BE a right! IN LAW just like food, water, housing!!

No, that's way too far just for the library. I'd do that for pleasure but right now I'm time poor and can't afford that for a general task.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

no, but i would bike 10 minutes

[–] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe on a nice day, but then really because I want to take a walk, and not out of necessity.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't hesitate to walk that far for a library, but realistically I'd take my cruiser bike for that distance. I've heard people tend to cite around 15-20 minutes as the maximum walk length that is considered "walkable," but I've often chosen walking longer distances than that even when other options were available. For dense urban areas, I'd rather walk that take a bus unless it's really far. Sometimes I get passed up by the same bus 5 or 6 times along the way. I agree with others who have said that time estimate sounds way long.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

What kind of path takes 75min for 3.7km? In a normal environment, this should be doable in 40 minutes.

Nah. If I can use public transport for such distances, I will.

For once because it's quicker, and because my path would probably lead along some noisy roads, so it wouldn't be fun to walk there

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I did close to that, when I was finding jobs after college, I was applying to listing in a library,/uni library. The trains back before pandemic decided they need to renovate for 6 years, so it left with limited options for transportation

[–] HatchetHaro@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey, my local public library is 3.2km away from me, which is about a 45 minute walk!

Anyways, no. I have multiple affordable public transit options that can take me there in 10 minutes. There are also bike lanes for the entire route if I ever decide to bike.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I usually run that kind of distance on a e scooter. Faster, less noise and pollution.

People talking walkable cities forget that cars move more than just people. And people don't stay in one living spot all the time. No modern city works without the logistics moving goods in and out and peoples stuff from and to their homes and businesses.

So you can't just remove all the streets and make a denser neighborhood. You need alternative solutions for logistics. I work in rail and I can tell you there is too many people starving in the world, but not for a lack of food but for a lack of logistics infrastructure to get the food to them in time.

Me personally I love underground rail networks and pneumatic tube delivery, but as an engineer i know about the weaknesses of these systems. For now that remains a dream.

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[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I'd bike it. 2.3 miles should only be a 45 minute walk for a normal person unless there's bad stop lights (assume ~20 minute miles). On a bike it's less than 15

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago
[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

3.7Km

It is more like 40-50 minutes if you're in the town with actual roads, not just a corn field.

would you walk an hour and 15 minutes to go to say, the library?

Walking more than an hour just to get to one place? No, unless walking is a sub-goal. You know, the weather is nice, no tasks for today...

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Would I? Depends on the day, the weather, the mood.

Would I regularly? No, I would either take public transport or the bike.

Would I need to? Also no, I live in a mid-sized city with many libraries and the closest one is 20 minutes walk away, the main one is some half an hour walk away in another direction. Access to municipal facilities was a key element in my decision of where to live.

I think that, because cars didn’t dictate the layout, things ended up being naturally closer by, such that long walks would be fairly unusual within the city.

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[–] froggycar360@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

If it’s more than a 20 minute walk I’m biking, if it’s more than a 30 minute bike ride I’m driving, if it’s more than a 40 minute drive I’m not going.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Last time I lived in a city, 15m is where I'd take the bus instead.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Walkable means all you need is in reasonable walking distance.

I wouldn't consider my neighbourhood to be particularly walkable as it's a suburb (in Europe) but my library is about 15 mins walk away.

Sometimes the amenity you need isn't in that walkable range, but cycling is a great alternative.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

A reasonable amount of time would be 15min-30min

Longer than that there needs to be transit

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

I don’t do walks longer than 20 minutes unless it’s for pleasure, thankfully the bus can get me most places I want to go beyond that. The terrain also makes a difference, I’d be less inclined to do 20 minutes uphill or across multiple freeways or something.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago

No. But that's because I work there.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Walk? No. I would cycle there. Get some bike bags so you can bring some books back.

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[–] CucumberFetish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't go to the office often, but when I do, I usually walk. The distance is 4km and it takes me 40mins. It's not like I walk often, most days I get less than 2k steps, but I do walk fast.

It is up to you (unless the infrastructure is an ass) to make it there in 40mins or 2 hours

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The infrastructure is ass.

I'm sorry for your loss

[–] Kuma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I walk 1,5 km in 10-15 minutes (depends on if I am alone or not), so yes I would walk that. But I like walking, I can suggest walking as a way to hang out haha

[–] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

A walkable environment also means good public transport.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

Where I live there are neither. The roads are not walkable, and there is no public transport. I would be happy if they were walkable. I'll never see buses here as long as I live. They are separate things.

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