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[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, our government in Aus will happily destroy one of our biggest export markets for our US overlords.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I suspect that out of the vassal states, Canada and Australia might actually be best positioned to resist the imperial demands. The fear mongering of an imminent invasion by Russia is used to whip up panic in Europe, meanwhile China serves the same purpose for occupied Korea, and Japan. However, there's no real credible threat to Canada or Australia. Nobody genuinely believes that there's going to be some military invasion happening. Meanwhile, the US acting belligerently creates public anger and harms business interests. In absence of an imminent threat, the extractive relations are starting to driving a wedge with the US.

[–] Oppopity@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They do the "will China invade us?!" Thing here in New Zealand and Australia.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's incredible to think that anybody actually takes that seriously.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Australians can be quite competitive, and quite a few Aussies are determined to beat the US in both stupidity and racism. It doesn't help that like 90% of the media in this country is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago

yeah I can imagine

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody genuinely believes that there's going to be some military invasion happening.

Australians are so racist that they do think this

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm willing to bet that they care about their standard of living a lot more if push comes to shove.

[–] SnuggleButt@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s why you degrade and normalize slow and steady. The playbook is written and reused, the product just refuses to read it

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Right that's been the model, but the problem now is that the system is starting to hit its limits, and it's no longer possible to do things slow and steady. Now the open cannibalizing of the vassals is beginning. We can already see it with the brutal trade deals the US imposed on the EU, Japan, occupied Korea. The exploitation is only going to get more pronounced going forward.

[–] hedd616@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And they are not in Latin America.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Canada might have trouble being so close the US, and despite being in a great position geographically, Australia's media is nonstop banging the drums of war and constantly accusing China of secretly planning to invade Australia, they are used as a boogeyman here the same way they are in Korea and Japan and Singapore. I'm sure our ruling class knows there's no military invasion happening, but a lot of them just want to bugger off to the US once all the copper has been stripped from our walls.

Thankfully the blind hate for China isn't as bad now as it was a few years ago, the US is shooting themselves in the foot, it's more a question of whether Australia will choose to be independent or fuck ourselves over (or just fuck over the working class) and at the moment I'm honestly not sure which way things will end up.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Canada being close to the US is precisely what makes people here worried about the US. Now that they see naked aggression in form of the trade war, and the whole talk of annexation, the sentiment is quickly turning against the states. Amusingly, Canada was happy to bend over backwards for the US before Trump started the trade war. It was a 51st state in all but name. Now there is serious talk about diversifying trade and maybe restarting some domestic industry.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's true, the US's rhetoric has made Australians much more open to working with other countries like China. Though I'm worried that it is just liberal brunch stuff, and that if a democrat gets into power people will just blindly support the US, even though it will be exactly the same as now, just with a "civil" leader instead of a buffoonish one. It already happened with Trump last time, so it could happen again this time. Not sure if you had a similar situation in Canada or not though.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What we see happening in the US is structural. If dems get back into power, the rhetoric might change, but not their policy. The US is now forced to prey on its vassals to sustain its own economy, and with the global economy bifurcating between G7 and BRICS, the economic situation in the US can only get worse going forward which will necessitate increased levels of exploitation of the countries it dominates. I think they've crossed the Rubicon at this point where the mask has dropped.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is true, but I would imagine the average lib in western countries would take any chance to go back to brunch, even if nothing has changed materially. Though as they continue to squeeze their vassals more and more, that sort of "head in the sand" attitude will become more and more unacceptable, hopefully people don't fall for it long enough to do lasting damage and result in US vassals being too weak to actually fight back.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Oh for sure, you can really see how Canada and Europe were pushing each other out of the way for a turn to crawl up Trump's ass. They really would rather be abused by a white nation than cooperate with the rest of the world. The problem they have, as you point out, is that declining material conditions are turning the public against them. We see it happening most prominently in Europe, but the situation is fairly tense in Canada as well.

This is all going to be interesting to watch in the coming years. The US has a lot of vassals, and maintaining control over them has to be a very resource intensive operation. Up to now, the vassals policed themselves, but with the domestic public becoming restless, that might not hold for long.