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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 118 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Oregon allows public nudity specifically for protests.

I know it will take a lot of bravery, but I honestly believe they should organize full nude, and completely calm protests. The optics of sending the military against protestors who are so little of a threat that they are actually completely nude is powerful.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a version of "dicks out for Harambe" that I did not anticipate.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

2016 was when we shifted from the "good" timeline to the "bad" timeline. We traced it back and the singularity occurred when we shot that poor damn gorilla.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

We've failed to repent for our sins.

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[–] PunksAlwaysWin@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fa in 'antifa' stands for fabric.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Get Netflix to sponsor the protest by selling it as a live action remake of Kill la Kill?

[–] F_State@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but the news and a variety of websites go out of their way to either pretend there are no protests in Portland or to mischaracterize them. You need a back up plan for getting news to the people if you want the optics to reflect the truth.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Careful, the ICE agents might become jealous comparing other's dicks to their Grinder date's and start shooting

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 140 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Did he even give a reason? There are no active protests.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“At the request of Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, I am directing Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland, and any of our ICE Facilities under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists,” Trump said Saturday in a post on Truth Social. “I am also authorizing Full Force, if necessary.”

I guess because Portland is "War ravaged," whatever that means and because he says so is as close as we're getting to reason.

Speaking of "whatever that means,"

authorizing Full Force

At the risk of stating the obvious, we are dealing with an unbelievably stupid person here (but this actually makes him more dangerous)

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think directly ordering the US military to go into a pretty normal US city and use "full force" against the Americans there, actually makes him less dangerous than he otherwise would be.

It is still terrifying, but imagine if it was someone clever enough to just leave things at their current boiling point until there are widespread attacks on ICE agents and cops, real unrest and people laying seige to ICE facilities, all the while he is currying favor with the military and police of the country instead of actively doing everything he can to antagonize them, and then he tries to do the clampdown, while framing it as if it's something else. Instead he's just calling up all these pretty patriotic high level military people and saying "Hey I need you to go shoot my opponents, who are Americans" and just assuming they'll be fine with it, what's the worst that could happen.

It might work. But he's definitely not doing a great job at helping it to be successful.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the kind of pressure that opens the door to a military coup.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't feel like the US military brass would do that, exactly... but they might stick their necks out to make it clear that they're getting illegal orders and they don't plan to follow them. They did do a very mild version of that before (and gave some speeches about the principles involved which some of the current protestors are playing over loudspeakers at their protestors when they encounter the National Guard which I think is fuckin' fantastic).

Of course I'm just speculating, I have no real idea how it might play out. In Ukraine in 2014, retired military people joining up with the protestors and teaching them all about how to fight effectively and win, now that it was a big fight with deadly force, had a huge amount to do with them routing the government forces so thoroughly. I feel like Trump doing everything he can to push US military people that same direction along that same axis is absolutely great.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In Ukraine in 2014, retired military people joining up with the protestors and teaching them all about how to fight effectively and win,

Let's cover the basics: don't pop up when they're shooting at you, have a lot of friends, flanking wins the battle, lay down suppressing fire for your (lots of) friends to move to better angles (for those flanking wins) (i.e., shoot and scoot), check your corners, height advantages make even more places they need to be looking and they often don't, retreat when you're outnumbered is a really good idea.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t feel like the US military brass would do that, exactly

Coups are often executed by very junior officers.

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Let's see if the military brass are still here next week.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

That's a fair point, I've been thinking about how they're going to get cornered by their own stupidity and then do the cornered animal thing of lashing out even more violently, but maybe a few years of explosive frightening chaos is better than a slowly descending suffocation

[–] scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

"siege" this fucker; when ICE is calling door dash into their fucking offices I think "siege" is hardly appropriate.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 75 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In the constructed reality that right wing media has built, Portland is an ongoing warzone.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 16 points 2 days ago

Right Wing Logic:

Democratic leaning areas are war zones! We must deploy the military and stop this madness by FORCE!

Also, nothing at all of note is occuring in Ukraine or Gaza. Why do you ask?

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

It's fairly effective in the outskirts of Portland and Gresham. I had someone ask how Portland was a few weeks ago. They were convinced it was experiencing raging riots for the past 90 days. Their source: "news from the East coast". Not sure what that means, but yeah.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Right wing media proves that the harm caused by chatbots is not unique. It's just tech companies made the problem way worse.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

they’ve been protesting at the Ice facility there for a while… also there’s lot’s of homeless people to put in concentration camps

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or like that Fox News host said, just kill em.

No I’m not actual advocating for this.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

good ol, still-on-fox, still-on-apple-podcasts, brian kilmeade….
i feel like it wouldn’t be too hard to get him cancelled on apple podcasts, at least…

I feel like watching him hit the floor like Kirk would be very satisfying, and the best part is he is far less relevant. Though I am not advocating murder, I'm more of a maim and ensure they have a long miserable life where they wish for death every waking moment.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah it's kind of wild that there is barely a whisper of the 24/7 protests and on tiktok they have to refer to them as music festivals to avoid being censored.

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[–] F_State@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

Any reason he could give is fabricated. Also, Portland in particular is more than just the usual "collapsing the Republic into a fascist dictatorship" thing he has going on. He's still butthurt about Portland from 2020.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

ICE operates out of a building south of downtown and there have been a handful of protestors camping out and protesting in front of the building 24/7 since June. The protestors have been for the most part peaceful, the ICE agents however have been violent, beating protestors, aiming guns at them, shooting them with pepper balls and gas cannisters, and deploying a variety of unknown chemical gasses.

The grade school next door to the ICE building had to move because of concerns over exposing the kids to those chemicals. The residents of the apartment buildings across the street aren't so lucky. Portland's own police department recently testified under oath that ICE has been instigating violence over the protestors.

There's a movement to evict ICE from the building. Just the other day, ICE was found to have committed over 20 violations of the agreement they had struck with the city in order to operate from that location this year alone. I wouldn't be surprised if the escalation from Trump is in response to that.

Source: I live in Portland and have been following the situation closely.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So they have sent troops to LA, Portland, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, Memphis and Baltimore. Trump is going to claim massive fraud for the midterms in these areas due to their arrest numbers.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 15 points 2 days ago

What? That wouldn't make any sense.

All this is is a huge, mind bogglingly dumb waste of taxpayers' money. Your money. The guardmen's money. Everyone's.

America just wasting everything we built because old rich men are big mad about whatever they're projecting about lately.

The sooner we usher these people into the nursing home for pudding and put actual adults back in charge, the better.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

ice is in chicago and he keep threatening the use of national guard.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Trump will do this in all blue states most likely.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Someone warn the crustpunks.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

Well, we know there are no birders in that lot since nobody told him they migrate south in the fall lol.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What's up with the censoring of words there?

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think they’re comically changing alleged to aged.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

And "no fucking" to "no king"

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Probably made for Facebook and their increasing pearl-clutching auto censor.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Guess I lost a bet, I thought Denver would be next. Are we not important enough?

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Its pretty easy to bypass with noscript

President Donald Trump ordered military troops to be deployed to Portland, Oregon, and said he is authorizing the use of “full force” if necessary.

“At the request of Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, I am directing Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland, and any of our ICE Facilities under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists,” Trump said Saturday in a post on Truth Social. “I am also authorizing Full Force, if necessary.”

The Trump administration has deployed National Guard troops to Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and Memphis. The post wasn’t specific about whether he was referring to Guard troops or regular military.

Neither the White House nor the Pentagon immediately responded to requests for comment.

Ongoing protests outside Portland’s federal ICE detention facility have escalated tensions between local officials, federal authorities, and demonstrators. Oregon lawmakers have criticized what they describe as mistreatment of detainees, while the city has challenged the facility with a land-use violation. DHS has deployed federal agents to Portland in response.

The protests, led in part by antifascist activists, have at times turned violent. Federal officials have condemned the actions, while Antifa-linked groups continue to call for more demonstrations, including solidarity rallies in nearby cities.

On Monday, the Trump administration designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, although the order holds no force of law because terrorist designations apply only to foreign-based actors and Antifa is an ideology whose adherents stage protests but under no organization or leader.

Outside of anti-ICE protests, a violent-crime report by the Major Cities Chiefs Association for the first half of 2025 showed a 50% drop in homicides in Oregon’s largest city, according to KATU, the ABC affiliate in Portland. The city has also seen a decline in reported rapes, aggravated assaults and robberies, the report said.

Read More: Hate Groups Seize on Trump’s Antifa Order With Online Threats

— With assistance from Wendy Benjaminson and Lauren Dezenski

(Updates with details and context beginning in fourth paragraph.)

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've lost track of whether I think Portland city leadership is going to welcome them or not.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a Portland resident, they probably will.

But also as a Portland resident, we all own lots of guns and generally hate ICE - this will not end well.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fucking Freikorps in 2025 USA. No surprises with the Trump regime.

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