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No. And I am tired of people assuming I'm racist for not wanting idiots coming over in small boats from france

No as it's a fair national security concern

It depends on where you are.

e.g. in NZ, we don't have a problem with illegal immigration, but completely legal "temporary migrant workers".

The issue, isn't the people, it's the load on already stretched infrastructure. Because they are "temporary", they are not factored into the calculations for infrastructure spending.

This wouldn't be a problem, if a short team need was being met, but it isn't... There are always temporary workers, because we as a country can't fill all the jobs from local supply.

With birth rates and other immigration, our population growth is around 1.5%, not the 0.5% we target our spending at.

If we spent at a rate that accounted for the real population growth, everything would work better for everyone.

As other pointed out, it is not technically racist to be against illegality, but asking with free will for laws and system with a racist bias to be strictly applied is racist as a consequence (as in, you're not racist by yourself, but you are racist in your speech/action), so in our world, i'd say yes it is racist in a certain way.

Not automatically, unless you're only opposed to illegal immigrants of specific races.

Yes

There's various reasons why people oppose immigration. I want to present two of them:

• Economic reasons. Having more people in the country does NOT mean that there will be more jobs. Because immigrants are typically poor, they take jobs but don't spend much money back to stimulate the economy. That takes jobs away from the people who were already in the country, which is very unpopular. This is mostly a concern if there's a lot of people immigrating, since the number of jobs taken by the immigrants is directly proportional to the number of immigrants. You can actually see this phenomenon in real time in agriculture and healthcare. These are typically low-paid professions who are largely done by immigrants. If there were no immigrants, wages would have to rise because otherwise, nobody would do these jobs. Then the people who were already in the country could take these jobs, because they would pay a living wage.
  Note that this is NOT a racist argument since it has nothing to do with what kind of people immigrates. Even if they were clones of yourself, this argument would still hold true. It is not about race or culture.
• Then there's cultural reasons. (which is what's commonly referred to as "racism"). Some people have a hard time adapting to anything new, and immigrants typically bring new ideas and new ways of doing things, which is a learning experience for everyone involved, and some people just don't like to learn new things. That leads to racism.

Absolutely not.

I really do believe that America should fix America first before it decides to try and 'help' other nations. The problem is, obviously, the wrong people are in place and doing it all wrong as possibly be.

Illegal Immigration has been a thorn in America's side for a couple decades now in recent memory. The only ones who benefit from it, are obviously corporations who love the idea of cheap labor in the form of modern-day slavery. The immigrants who come here, are not seen as people, they are seen as assets. And it is glaring, how those assets are ironically seen as more valuable than natural born workers who got hired.

Don't believe me? I've witnessed it where someone who immigrated here, got to take multiple months off from work and come back to retain her job. Meanwhile, people like me, have had to practically work and weed my way through the system to make sure I have days off, to make sure I keep my job secure. Tell me how in that way is it fair. There are probably numerous examples where naturally born citizens are sometimes treated lesser than, than those who came here from other countries and picked up similar positions to work.

But certain groups of people brush all of that under the rug and play the label game instead, rather than addressing the problem. It's easier for people to side-step these issues when they aren't the one experiencing them, so it must be comfy to think radically as if they don't exist.

And I don't really buy into the logic that the United States, and ONLY the United States mind you, should have open borders. Countries are allowed to have borders and keep them safeguard, it's been a thing for CENTURIES! But because it's the 2010s or 2020s, no no, we have to discard that ideal and apply it only to the United States. I'm sorry but the United States are as allowed as any other country in the world, to have borders and secure them as they see fit.

My point of the matter is, is that if you're going to migrate to the United States, you're expected to assimilate. Not be cherry picking and expecting people to bow to your will just BECAUSE you migrated, it doesn't make you that special. You don't charge over into places like Japan, Germany or other countries and expect them to bow to your will just BECAUSE you migrated from the United States, do you? If so, you're part of that problem.

And if you don't want to assimilate, then you're best being shipped back. Otherwise, it adds to the problem and I think the whole honeypot melting thing that the US Government has tried pushing around for a while now, has been a fundamental failure. Because now it has been completely politicized and only has made more people argumentative over the issue when it should have just been simpler.

It depends.

It would be racist to oppose immigrants from Sudan whilst welcoming those from Ukraine.

In my opinion, it is not racist to oppose illegal immigration per se. Especially if those immigrants would benefit from a social system that you pay into.

It is wrong, however to blame the immigrants, as it would be the system that is the problem.

No.

I’d argue no, if you have valid reasons and lets not kid ourselves even though there is enough wealth in the world to have everyone live comfortably, thats not the game the wealthy and their puppet politicians play. They want us cheap and desperate and immigrants are just another tool to achieve this objective.