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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

I don't use ad blockers, just normal YouTube. One thing I noticed about a month ago is that when I'm watching some silly video a 55 second ad will come on with about three minutes left to view on the video. It's at that point I usually just back out and look for other videos to watch. My grandson told me it seems odd because YouTube monetization requires the whole video to be viewed before they'll pay. Does this make sense? I don't know much about "monetization" I just watch silly videos.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

It's true. Having to constantly update some adblockers and ways to evade ads in youtube made me realize shitty youtube videos are not worth the effort and I barely use it nowadays.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

adblockers cause views to drop

Nothing causes me to drop a video like an ad I can't put up with, like a political ad. This is some BULLSHIT.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 day ago

Google know who they're streaming videos to. They know this from the back-end. They absolutely do not require a script running in the browser to phone home about it in order to count "views". All the telemetry they need they can get from existing traffic; the additional telemetry supplied by scripts is mostly just for Bad Reasons and it's morally fine to block it.

[–] UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

For many years biggest online threats were criminals and malware. Today the biggest threats are big companies, especially Google. Everyday we have to "fight" against it because it tries to steal all our data and even more.

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Tldr: youtube forced ai into video monitoring and it keeps killing videos it shouldn't, so instead of saying Ai is bad they're blaming af blockers because why not lie when there's no repercussions?

YouTube views are dropping because they are using AI to vet and cull age innappropriate content from minors. the problem is the ai is very bad at its job and marks way too many videos as not advertiser friendly, which effectively kills YouTube promoting that video in feeds. this is the default view for new accounts, so you have to specifically turn off parental controls to see a normal feed. this started happening about 4 months ago. a number of channels I watch have made comments about this, including Redlettermedia

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't understand:

  • What is 'AI in video monitoring?'

  • The article mentions literally nothing about this, so where did that come from?

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[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not saying I don't believe that's what's happening, but the article mentions nothing about any sort of YouTube AI interference.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

frustrated by ads that feel irrelevant

What?

Do they think we have a friend-or-foe system that only shoots down advertisements from adversaries?

An ad is an ad, and should be terminated on sight.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I used to prefer personalized ads over the insanity that was 90-00s "random" ads experience. But, since ads became a risk vector, I agree with a block by default approach, and I'll find alternate ways to support sites I visit frequently rather than allowlist ads.

[–] User79185@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Blocking ads for decades everywhere, life is sooo goood without that cancer.

P.S. The only place were ads should appear are "yellow pages" thing, for example messenger channels just for that, where you intentionally join to look for local deals, discounts, contractors etc, especially to support local economy and not some megacorp. And ofc current google spying is not helping, block the ads, block trackers, it ruins the "steal the data" model.

[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m sure that the number of times I’ve decided “nah I don’t need to see that” after being told an ad blocker violated YouTube’s terms of service has absolutely nothing to do with it either.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even on a computer without ad blocker (work laptop, chrome browser)

the number of times i say "nah i don't need to see that" as soon as thes annoying ads comes up before the video...

The decline probably has very little to do with ad blockers.

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[–] 73QjabParc34Vebq@piefed.blahaj.zone 147 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If you see an ad, close the tab.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Literally the only way they will learn. I really don't understand how we as a society have accepted ads as a necessary evil. We all hate them, but we all also make them work. It's horrible.

[–] sdcSpade@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I've been wondering for a while where the point of diminishing returns is. Surely, at some point, ads become aggressive enough to have an adverse effect on advertisers?

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[–] Nelots@piefed.zip 6 points 1 day ago

It kinda is a necessary evil, if you want free content at least. Especially for a website like youtube where you need to host millions of large videos 24/7. That shit ain't cheap, and even google can't make money out of thin air. Not that I'm defending youtube or anything, charging $8 a month for premium lite but still giving you ads is insane. Paid services should never have ads.

My problem isn't with ads, but rather the type of ads used. Like I said a moment ago, I don't think paid services should ever have ads of any kind. But for free websites, a few side banner ads are fine in my book, while ads in the middle of a page or popup ads or video ads (especially unskippable ones) are a no-go. Essentially anything that doesn't interrupt what I'm doing is usually something I'm okay with.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

firefox and ublock origin.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 185 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The number of ads I had popping up while trying to read that article isn't discouraging me from using adblockers.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 71 points 2 days ago

This is actually one of my favorite websites to browse on desktop through my VPN and extreme DNS blocking solution. The console just fills with blocked content and JavaScript errors, it really warms my heart.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lemme try and feel sorry for my cartoonishly rich tech overlords real quick.........

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[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 98 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the Google war on ad blocking meant the ad blockers accidently blocked something everyone wants its still Google fault.

Everything was fine until Google decided to change how everything works over and over again to get people to watch the awful ads they let on their platform.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Googlees don't "let" ads on their platform. Ads are the entire reason for the existence of their platform.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They could hire some people to vet the ads.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

A company taking responsibility for the ads they serve? That sounds like communism to me!

[–] avatar@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Didn't age verification - also recently implemented - cause youtube views to drop?

Here's a case of it very well explained.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDPUzfwa4u0

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

No. It's false news. Just someone panicked looking for a cheap reason.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

At least we know one thing that didn't cause it.

Thanks for that hint on decoding your shitty blackbox google.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 25 points 1 day ago
[–] Jestzer@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

For those curious what “adblockers said really happened”:

[AdGuard] suggested that the issue may have been linked to popular community-maintained filter lists like EasyList and uBlock’s Quick Fixes.

A new filter rule added to EasyList on August 11, 2025 targeted telemetry requests thought to be tied to YouTube’s view attribution and analytics.

That rule remained in place until September 10, when it was temporarily disabled.

A similar change was added to uBlock’s Quick Fixes on September 10 and removed on September 17.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It's gotten to the point where I have to re-load each YT tab three times before the video ever starts playing - only because I use uBlock.

Still better than watching ads, but it is getting annoying.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I have a theory that YT deliberately makes you wait the length an ad would have been if you have uBlock Origin installed. Ive just let it "buffer" for 30 seconds or so and it will eventually load the video.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think this is true, and I still prefer it to an ad. Even if it's longer than the ad would have been.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

My despise to ads is so big that if someday ads are completely unavoidable I'll settle for a system that just blackens the screen and mute the volume for the duration of the ads. It will still be worth it.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 days ago

I'd rather watch nothing than an ad trying to sell me something.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Still better tbh

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago

I am fine if it means I don't have to watch some scam ass ad.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I have the same problem, and after you start clicking play, often you can wait it out and the video will eventually play on its own after 10-15 seconds

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

caused youtube views count to drop

oh no... anyway

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[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (16 children)

(shrug) don't care if it affects views, never should have had them in videos regardless.

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