Technology

Came here to say this after giving it 24 hours in case it was just lucky timing

However, now if I try to watch a YT vid in Firefox, I get the "Oops something went wrong" right when the Ad should have popped up

Nebula is just a better experience most cases too. It just shows you what you're subscribed to in chronological order, which is how YouTube used to work when it was less annoying.

It also shares more revenue with creators and doesn't force feed you ads. I really hope it continues to grow and never betrays its roots.

Sadly there's so much good music from the 2000s on there that I can't find elsewhere. Small bands that never really broke through.

Inaccesible because of autocratic morons.

I wish there was a place that had agdq and speedrunning clips. Then I could leave.

Twitch is atrocious for archived content.

Overheard at the last shareholders conference. “Until everyone empties all their ecoin & change jars and the only things left to eat are those mysterious Budding’s sandwich meats with some shit ass processed excuse for a loaf of bread.” This is where we want the average American citizen to be living/existing/panicking.” I dunno his name, but it was for sure a rich, old, white dude. A real Montgomery Burns type looking MF’er. I dunno? They all look the same to me. EDIT: Apparently I fit that demographic according to the young ‘uns visiting us. Although they think I look like “The Dude” from “The Big Lebowski”.

They won't kill it, just like it hasn't died so far. The content, viewer demographics, and algorithm continue to shift. There's too much money with all the ads and subscription fees. Most people view some content on it by default.

Its gonna be the new cable TV in a way. Kinda sucks, some good stuff on it, but mostly slop filled with ads. And everyone will still use it. Even if they block all 3rd party access, people like me are still going to use it to some limited degree. There will be a video about how to fix a random plumbing fitting that is leaking in my house, or how to fix some random thing on my 15 year old car.

Otoh, you also have Odysee and PeerTube to move your own content to.

My self hosted downloader similarly didn't skip a beat.

What I don't understand. Like, they know people hate shitty ads.

If they had like, literally any level of vetting on the ads, people might actually watch them. But its all fucking scams or podcasts of lies pretending to be ads etc.

I know it costs money to have people but sales people serve a purpose.

It's so weird hearing about YouTube ads. I can't recall ever seeing one. I know one day they're going to finally ruin it and I won't be able to consume it any more, an event I try to prepare for, but I haven't really done anything special to avoid ads except all the stuff you have to do just to be secure on the web in the first place. Like just using librewolf out of the box works fine?

I cancelled YT Premium after paying pretty much since Google Music was a thing. The price keeps going up ($14/month now here in the US), and Lite is meh even for the discounted price (e.g. no background play I think?).

They just keep building the wall higher and higher, while they survive only because creators keep filling it with content. Nobody is watching "YouTube Originals" or their first party content. YouTube exists solely because of third party creators.

Not only that but I can survive with Brave or Firefox with UBO or whatever. It's not that hard to avoid the ads, even if it's a little inconvenient vs being able to use the app.

Well the problem for google is that Youtube MUST be accessible to almost any internet user in the world - that's a key reason why it's so ubiquitous.

The reason this cat and mouse game has lasted as long as it has in the first place is because any method that is currently being quashed has a solution lying in another user agent that youtube can't kill.

If one day YT sets a "minimum requirements" page on their website to access their content, they've immediately ceded market share to the next upstart. Imagine if they broke viewing for all of the countless cheap (and e-waste) phones, tablets, low end IOT devices, "smart TVs", and so on because they place a requirement that the device cannot meet. Those users will not throw away their hardware - they'll migrate to the first available alternative way to watch content.

As long as YT caters to the lowest common denominator (Their business model essentially binds them to do so), there will always be a software/hardware environment that these tools can spoof. The moment that stops being the case, people look for other options.

A similar analogy would be how Microsoft handled the windows 11 requirements - the strict requirements locking out years upon years of hardware has resulted in a substantial amount of users finding workarounds for their machines (like windows 10 IOT LTSC), or to even jump to linux entirely. They abandoned the entry level users, so entry level users are abandoning them.

what is the endgame of this cat and mouse game?

Same as usual: the mouse loses unless it assembles and unionizes with other mouses and they bring in a guillotine.