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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.org/post/1872634

So, starting now, Google started mandating full JS for YT, effectively breaking all third-party clients and locking the site to their official client.

This reeks of DRM.

UPDATE: Installing Deno and installing yt-dlp through PyPi fixes yt-dlp but the very idea that Google is mandating JS to lock down YT in an attempt at pseudo-DRM is still crappy.

UPDATE #2: inv.nadeko.net is working again for now.

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[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

I am so glad I had the foresight to use yt-dlp to back up most of my favorite videos. Not all of them, but I just thought we'd get more time.

But yeah, I knew this would happen. The age verification thing was really controversial, so Google would have had to expect that people would try to find other ways to access YouTube. They won't stop here and will go after Deno and NewPipe.

I'm pretty much done with YouTube. It's just not what it used to be. All my favorite YouTubers are either gone, have changed for the worse, or are on Nebula. It's mostly just slop, and I won't miss it.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I wish there was a place that had agdq and speedrunning clips. Then I could leave.

Twitch is atrocious for archived content.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Sadly there's so much good music from the 2000s on there that I can't find elsewhere. Small bands that never really broke through.

Inaccesible because of autocratic morons.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Nebula is just a better experience most cases too. It just shows you what you're subscribed to in chronological order, which is how YouTube used to work when it was less annoying.

It also shares more revenue with creators and doesn't force feed you ads. I really hope it continues to grow and never betrays its roots.

[–] NovaSel@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who is listening to a video on NewPipe as I type this very comment, no they did not

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Came here to say this after giving it 24 hours in case it was just lucky timing

However, now if I try to watch a YT vid in Firefox, I get the "Oops something went wrong" right when the Ad should have popped up

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I've gotten that occasionally, it usually fixes with a refresh. Was it persistent for you?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

yeap... happened again after the refresh

I had almost given up on youtube since they blank out your home if you do not allow them to track history so this may have started a bit back. I only went on it because someone sent me a link and I just opened it directly... all in all, just another reason to not use YouTube

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

Haha I actually love having a blank Home (and especially blank Shorts) since as it has significantly moderated excessive YT use for me. I’m honestly surprised that was their course of action as it ultimately had reduced my use of the app.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Well, that's super lame! I wish there was a good alternative. I'll probably stick with it as long as ReVanced works.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

my yt-dlp is on a daily auto-update loop, so I missed this. It's working still. My thanks go to the amazing yt-dlp devs.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The day smart tube next stops working is the day i stop using youtube. I will NEVER watch a shitty youtube ad and I'm sure as shit not paying google any money whatsoever.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

What I don't understand. Like, they know people hate shitty ads.

If they had like, literally any level of vetting on the ads, people might actually watch them. But its all fucking scams or podcasts of lies pretending to be ads etc.

I know it costs money to have people but sales people serve a purpose.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

They have a bank of companies that are paying to have their ads shown.

The companies dictate who they want to market to.

Google originally pitched scanning your things for relvant ads and delivered on it, but that's not where the money is at.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

It's so weird hearing about YouTube ads. I can't recall ever seeing one. I know one day they're going to finally ruin it and I won't be able to consume it any more, an event I try to prepare for, but I haven't really done anything special to avoid ads except all the stuff you have to do just to be secure on the web in the first place. Like just using librewolf out of the box works fine?

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I'm gonna start listening to podcasts, they're more informative and less bandwidth heavy anyway.

[–] courval@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The world needs a p2p alternative, what are our current options? I wouldn't mind alocating 500GB or more of my storage space just to get rid of these fuckers. These fascist gangsters are taking millions of people hostage who depend on YT for their livelihood..

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You got PeerTube for that, but anyone who kills their YT account and moves to PT full time will need to secure alt funding somehow either through Nebula, merch sales, getting a W-2 job, or a combination of the three, though, even if they host on a physical server they own and not on a VPS; buying the parts to build a decent PT server is going to be a pretty heavy up-front cost in itself although there wouldn't be any monthly costs and especially monthly data storage costs like on a VPS.

[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago

Outside of PeerTube, you mean?

[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (10 children)

They're going to keep enshitifying it until they kill it completely. Them blackholes, I mean shareholders, will never have enough money.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Overheard at the last shareholders conference. “Until everyone empties all their ecoin & change jars and the only things left to eat are those mysterious Budding’s sandwich meats with some shit ass processed excuse for a loaf of bread.” This is where we want the average American citizen to be living/existing/panicking.” I dunno his name, but it was for sure a rich, old, white dude. A real Montgomery Burns type looking MF’er. I dunno? They all look the same to me. EDIT: Apparently I fit that demographic according to the young ‘uns visiting us. Although they think I look like “The Dude” from “The Big Lebowski”.

[–] Ziro427@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

The Dude abides.

[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

They won't kill it, just like it hasn't died so far. The content, viewer demographics, and algorithm continue to shift. There's too much money with all the ads and subscription fees. Most people view some content on it by default.

Its gonna be the new cable TV in a way. Kinda sucks, some good stuff on it, but mostly slop filled with ads. And everyone will still use it. Even if they block all 3rd party access, people like me are still going to use it to some limited degree. There will be a video about how to fix a random plumbing fitting that is leaking in my house, or how to fix some random thing on my 15 year old car.

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[–] nom_nom@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 day ago

Holy shit I did not realize how complex of a project yt-dlp has to be to do something as simple as download a video... Kudos to the devs

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

New pipe and smart tube both working for me.

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[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

This post's title is just completely incorrect and it looks like 700+ people didn't even read the comments or the actual issue for one minute.

Good job guys!

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Honestly surprised YouTube hasn't just required DRM yet

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about +12 hours ago spotdl (which uses yt-dlp) was broken. But I keep go on watching videos on newpipe

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You should remember to send all YT videos that you watch to archive.org

There are browser extensions to do this conveniently

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