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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

There it is. Democrats could easily walk back stances on guns and it would hurt them less than this pollster brained idiocy.

All democrats have to say is "government has more important things to do than regulate sports, there are sports commissions that have asked and answered these questions. This is politicians seeking another way to intrude upon our lives."

[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 17 points 22 hours ago

This shit again? I can't believe we're still talking about this like it's an issue that matters AT ALL.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 17 points 22 hours ago

And we all know, sports is the most important thing right now. Or ever.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 22 points 1 day ago

Why should I give a shit what a politician says about fucking sports, period?

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ooo yeah let's be concerned over the, what .002% of our population doing things they wanna do and being who they wanna be. Yeah that's a big talking point when 80% of the rest of the country can't afford rent.

Fuck. Just leave trans people alone already Jesus Christ...

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago

I was about to say its's 0.75% for USA, but your are probably right once you factor in how many Trans people then have to care about getting into a sport.

USA seems to think every citizen plays or watches sports.

I have had coworkers and randos ask if I saw the game last night, so I have to ask which game? They mention a football/hockey/baseball game. I reply that I don't watch team sports. They then continue to talk about the game like I'm a decades old fan catching up on what I missed. At this stage I've tuned out the details and am actually wondering how their whole life centers around somebody elses accomplishments in a city they have never been to. And also wondering how they missed the cue that I'm not interested in sports.

But that is USA; identity based on guns and sports. Trans somehow becomes an attack on their identity.

[–] Kepion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 day ago
[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Who cares what kamala thinks or says?

She lost, quite predictably, after being annointed by establishment tools that brought us hillary and joe, and will fail us with newsom if they can.

Do not follow their lead. They are doomed to fail in unseating r's let alone restoring society.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

Pretty much. It's another "Hey let's demonize those nasty Democrats!" because those get clicks. Because those conservative stories about raping kids and shooting up a place doesn't get any traction anymore.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Out of all the trans issues you care about trans sports? It's almost like you want people to hate us. Who am I kidding that's exactly why. Fucking right wing shills in the DNC. Out of every issue with trans people, Americas by majority are supportive except for mf trans sports, because of course it's extremely stupid, especially if you aren't going to let kids have some hrt when they want to transition. No coincidence there. Of course that's what they will pick to run on because the DNC is controlled by the same fucking hateful dipshits that control the rest of the state. The DNC will do everything in its power to make sure the Republicans win because they know their voters are stupid enough to help them implement a police state and mass surveillance and turn America into an autocracy. Fuck the DNC.

Don't forget in the last election you didn't hear a peep out of the fucking DNC only for their candidate to pull out right at the end to guarantee trump a win. That should tell you how Americans really feel. The only people who vote Republicans at this point are a few mentally retarded people and some boomers with dementia. They lie about everything.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m also concerned for their safety and wellbeing. That’s why you’re concerned, right Mrs. Harris?

…That’s why you’re concerned, right?

[–] chaosCruiser 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Anakin and Padme Meme

Concerned about, not for.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Everything that comes put of Kamala's mouth concerns culture war crap. I'm convinced she's just a MAGA sock puppet, because not only does she have no chance of winning over republican voters, but also now alienated democrat voters with this crap. Unbelievable!

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[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fucking spineless weathervane. No wonder she lost. Focus group driven decision making.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 days ago (22 children)

Oh look it’s not just Newsom and that rep from Georgia anymore. The spineless democrats are testing the waters now to see how throwing trans people under the bus will go.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This ends up being very effective as a wedge issue for Republicans, because they can make shit up about the other side, and run against the lies they tell themselves, because the truthful situation is complicated and the lie is simpler to understand.

Some sports are strictly separated by gender, and some are not. Generally speaking, it's people who administer the leagues that make that decision. Everything from pro leagues down to rec leagues will have rules based on gender, and they are created by whoever administers the leagues to foster competition.

I don't feel qualified to know which sports confer a distinct advantage to people who go through male puberty. It certainly isn't all of them, but there must be some where it makes sense to exclude humans who have gone through male puberty from women's leagues. But, I don't feel most politicians are qualified to know that, either. People who know each sport best should make that decision, based on science and the knowledge of their sport, and politicians should just butt out. But you get better soundbites by lying about it and airing grievances about it than by being rational.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 hours ago

It's only a wedge issue because of people like Harris. If she had a spine and decent values, she could have explained that actually trans athletes in sports are not a serious concern, because look at the data FFS.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Jesus fucking Christ, sports shouldn't be a political issue at all. It's literally a fucking game, the government and politicians shouldn't be involved in this shit at all in the first place. We should care about as much about Kamala's opinion on the WNBA as we do about her opinion on Minecraft. The leagues are privately-owned companies, let them run their fucking company how they want (which up to this point, has been trans-inclusive).

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

My first reaction especially given other things I've heard about this book was Wtf is wrong with this lady?

The full quote is not quite as bad as I assumed:

“I agree with the concerns expressed by parents and players that we have to take into account biological factors such as muscle mass and unfair student athletic advantage when we determine who plays on which teams, especially in contact sports,” Harris reportedly wrote. “With goodwill and common sense, I believe we can come up with ways to do this, without vilifying and demonizing children.”

Every time somebody brings up concerns over trans athletes I always think about these images of Katherine Switzer running the Boston Marathon:

I question why we have gender divisions in the first place, bc it's definitely not that society was ever concerned about fairness. The reason gender divisions were created in the first place, is the same reason we originally had racial based divisions until one day we didn't.

That guy wasn't physically assaulting Switzer and trying to stop her from becoming the first woman to run the Boston Marathon bc he was concerned she may be at an unfair disadvantage. He was trying to stop her bc back when the marathon first started somebody made "No girls allowed!" one of the rules, and this guy was uncomfortable with change. It seems pretty obvious now, that was just a dumb and unnecessary rule to begin with.

If this is all really about fairness like people claim, then maybe we should consider just nixing gender divisions entirely and moving to something like weight class or skill level divisions for competitive sports.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Did no one actually read the article past the vaguely misleading headline?

“I agree with the concerns expressed by parents and players that we have to take into account biological factors such as muscle mass and unfair student athletic advantage when we determine who plays on which teams, especially in contact sports,” Harris reportedly wrote. “With goodwill and common sense, I believe we can come up with ways to do this, without vilifying and demonizing children.”

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My problem with the article is how much air Americans give to the topic of trans athletes in sports when Americans have more pressing problems. Healthcare, affordability of life, violence are real issues affecting Americans much more than sports games. I don't think giving air to this conversation is helping Americans.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

That's the entire point of all these "culture war" issues. They're used as distractions for more pressing matters, that the ruling class really doesn't want to address, because they know conservatives will be outraged by them, and progressives won't be able to just let people be victimized, for no reason. If the public tires itself out, fighting over topics like these, there's a better chance we won't have the energy to demand real action on more expensive things.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Oh, so they are going to mandate weight and height classes across the board for all sports and stop separating sport by gender?

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