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Canada’s tariff wall on Chinese electric vehicles is deepening dependence on the U.S.
(theconversation.com)
Fuck china and their spy hardware on wheels.
this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2025
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Canada has a fascist eyeing up on its ass while a pseudo-communist, quasi-state capitalist is giving him the sultry look from across the waters. Not exactly a good position to be in.
Kind of a tangent, but everytime I read "need a more nuanced..." In regards to regulation, from an industry person or a politician, I can't help but assume they are just trying to create some kind of loophole to massively exploit something they weren't already allowed to
The threat of Chinese EVs is absolutely necessary to support for any non traitorous Canadian.
No one has firm plans to make EVs in Canada. The threat can at very least get "best offers" of investment and commitments to Canada that might be better for Canadian economy, even if it helps destroy climate. Cannibalism was always going to be preferred over human sustainability.
Canada benefits from investment. If every other company in the world is too afraid of Trump to invest in Canada, then Canada needs China. The end. Obviously, a trade deal would include an investment deal.
Canada is a giant global auto market equal to UK for 7th place. Measured in over priced vehicles too. Significant boost to Canadian standard of living to have access to better value EVs, which are already better value cars than ICE engine alternatives. Quieter, faster, power your home in emergency, urban life quality for non drivers.
When Canada removed DST, not only did we get zero in return from US government, the tech companies that avoided the tax didn't even show any gratitude with data center or other investments in Canada. ONLY flirting with non US colonies can Canada get any investments (or genuine defense commitments) from US and its colonies.
"No one has firm plans to make EVs in Canada" - Not true, Canada had and still has Lion Electric for example. All Canadian schools should get their buses there. It's a great place for adoption to start. They also had/have trucks. Lack of support from Canada is shameful.
Didn't Lion Electric go bankrupt?
There was a big bet/hope on Honda battery facility. AFAIK, its on hold for perpetuity until Trump doesn't scare Honda anymore, which won't happen, because any future president/US politician will like that Honda is a sycophant to it. Lion counts a little bit, busses actually very important emissions sources, but it's relatively small part of Canadian transportation.
School buses carry 100% of future car buyers and those who experiment EVs don't go back to ICE.
Canada is a large car market. More importantly, vehicles manufactured here will eventually be exported to the US when their policy corrects.
And we will not round up your works in chains like they are doing in the US at the moment (eg. Hyundai).
Investment in Canada ? How soon we forget the lesson NorTel taught us.
That was quite a while ago, but if you want a trade/investment deal to make those pensions whole, idc. It would be peanuts. Any Nortel design expertise being in Canada to help new Huawei subsidiary, with SMIC chip plants in Canada would be a more progressive offer to improve Canada.
Threaten Apple, Google, Nvidia markets if you want to get US friendliness. Grumble about the past to remain CIA colony.
We lifted all the tariffs on the US as a "gesture of goodwill" to Big Daddy Trump and yet keep these stupid tariffs on China that are crushing our lumber and agriculture industries into dust out west, in order to protect some token auto industry jobs building gas-guzzling American cars. Feels like we're already the 51st state and Trump is just going to make it official.
Once cheap imported EVs is sold in Canada, there's no way for Canada to build its own EV industry, which would remove the demand for batteries to be made in Canada
we are never going to build our own ev industry in time for it make any difference, the only places doing it are incredibly niche small companies making "kei trucks" and buses for public transit, or parts and assembly for foreign companies. and it would take decades for us to achieve a similar quality product that china has right now, if ever, and never at an affordable price in comparison.
the reason everyone isnt driving electric is because we dont have the availability, infrastructure, and pricing that makes it worthwhile.
we can 100% still make batteries and offer alternate solutions with said batteries rather than using them to create our "own ev line" we could make drop in battery/motor conversion kits for instance. for bikes, cars, trucks, buses, whatever you can imagine.
also we could use them to create and maintain municipal public transit, like torontos/vancouvers rental ebikes, except not privately owned. buses are already being converted as well. (looking at you winnipeg)
having locally made batteries will never not be valuable. having additional options and RnD cant hurt.
realistically speaking. theres zero chance we will be able to ever offer a more affordable and similar quality all canadian EV vehicle line up in the next several decades. thats a pipe dream.
but batteries, and the stuff to make them, will only go up in demand. and its possible that domestic batteries some day might be cheaper, if we play our cards right.
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Why does Canada tariff them? Do they have domestic production they are protecting?
We do manufacturer some cars
The government justified its “tariff fortress” by pointing to China’s extensive industrial policy, such as subsidies, that artificially lower production costs. The tariffs were claimed to protect domestic producers by offsetting the cost advantage enjoyed by Chinese EV manufacturers.
I don’t get this argument. Europe makes and exports EVs. Japan and Korea do too. Buy from them if you don’t want something US branded. Build EVs in Canada.
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