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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The threat of Chinese EVs is absolutely necessary to support for any non traitorous Canadian.

No one has firm plans to make EVs in Canada. The threat can at very least get "best offers" of investment and commitments to Canada that might be better for Canadian economy, even if it helps destroy climate. Cannibalism was always going to be preferred over human sustainability.

Canada benefits from investment. If every other company in the world is too afraid of Trump to invest in Canada, then Canada needs China. The end. Obviously, a trade deal would include an investment deal.

Canada is a giant global auto market equal to UK for 7th place. Measured in over priced vehicles too. Significant boost to Canadian standard of living to have access to better value EVs, which are already better value cars than ICE engine alternatives. Quieter, faster, power your home in emergency, urban life quality for non drivers.

When Canada removed DST, not only did we get zero in return from US government, the tech companies that avoided the tax didn't even show any gratitude with data center or other investments in Canada. ONLY flirting with non US colonies can Canada get any investments (or genuine defense commitments) from US and its colonies.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

"No one has firm plans to make EVs in Canada" - Not true, Canada had and still has Lion Electric for example. All Canadian schools should get their buses there. It's a great place for adoption to start. They also had/have trucks. Lack of support from Canada is shameful.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Lion Electric is broke, stock is at one cent.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There was a big bet/hope on Honda battery facility. AFAIK, its on hold for perpetuity until Trump doesn't scare Honda anymore, which won't happen, because any future president/US politician will like that Honda is a sycophant to it. Lion counts a little bit, busses actually very important emissions sources, but it's relatively small part of Canadian transportation.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

School buses carry 100% of future car buyers and those who experiment EVs don't go back to ICE.

[–] anguo@piefed.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Didn't Lion Electric go bankrupt?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago

Canada is a large car market. More importantly, vehicles manufactured here will eventually be exported to the US when their policy corrects.

And we will not round up your works in chains like they are doing in the US at the moment (eg. Hyundai).

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Investment in Canada ? How soon we forget the lesson NorTel taught us.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That was quite a while ago, but if you want a trade/investment deal to make those pensions whole, idc. It would be peanuts. Any Nortel design expertise being in Canada to help new Huawei subsidiary, with SMIC chip plants in Canada would be a more progressive offer to improve Canada.

Threaten Apple, Google, Nvidia markets if you want to get US friendliness. Grumble about the past to remain CIA colony.