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So did the UN as of two days sgo, for those who missed it. More here: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds
For the leaders hiding behind the shield of "we don't know", well, now we know. Now get off your ass and do what you're obligated to do.
So does anyone know what actually comes of this? Does this realistically change the trajectory at all or will Israel just carry on like nothing changed?
Well, if you want my optimistic view I'd say that signatories to the agreement to prevent genocide will now be compelled to act. If you want my pessimistic view it's that nothing will change.
They'll just keep carrying on
There is a big narrative that loves to pick off the left-est of the left people in the US government, and come up with various bullshit reasons to criticize them. You'll see a bunch of them down below in this thread, being negative about Bernie.
You'll never hear this kind of argument applied anywhere else. Like, if Beto O'Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn't see all these Lemmy comments saying "TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT" or whatever. When that handful of countries said they wouldn't do sporting events with Israel, I didn't see anyone commenting "YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES" or anything like that. The extensive nitpicking is only aimed at people like AOC and Bernie who are significant leftist voices in government.
If you want to know what Bernie's been actually saying about Gaza, this is it:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVDPXtnTXUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFhcSlrJcAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dd4cg-t8j8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_AWLQ4gk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBZreokpA_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrHfsqg990
And so on. He's been doing what most of Lemmy would like to see someone in the US Congress doing: Yelling about Israel, what a fucking horror it is, and trying to stop US military aid. This extensive nailbiting about him calling it "ethnic cleansing" instead of "genocide" is just going to get smoothly replaced by these users with some other reason to nailbite about him, definitely not with any enthusiasm or support for him. I guarantee it.
The UN just called it one, Bernie has cover to do it now. His situation changed, so did his actions.
The bar is in hell
I legitimately have no idea how that man keeps going. Pretty sure I would've hung my hat up after the first 3 or 4 decades when things kept getting worse.
Honestly, when you're fighting for what's right, it makes it more bearable when it's hard. There's not this extensive hesitation or heavy weight, like when you're struggling with some frustrating task that isn't really what needs to be done in the first place.
I love Bernie. I think he's one of the greatest people we have in this world. That being said it's about goddamn time. He's been avoiding saying that for a very very very long time.
I saw a horrifying estimate of 680,000 murdered by israel in Gaza. Ten times the official figure. This is almost a third of the pre genocide population. It is a holocaust.
Wow, a big step for Sanders. This shows it is becoming more mainstream to acknowledge the genocide. I know it's common sense for us here, but mainstream acceptance is extremely important here. A long way to go, but this is good news
Maybe he was waiting for the UN commission to officially call it a genocide.
BREAKING NEWS " Sanders calls genocide a "genocide"
A few years ago he said "Criticizing Israel is not antisemitic" - this REALLY HELPED criticism be heard at all.
yea its been going on since he was like 7 years old. took long enough to say it out loud.
This
Back then maybe technically it wasn't a genocide just yet, but I recall watching news on tv as an 8 year old, talking about Israeli soldiers shooting and murdering children because they threw rocks at them.
Nothing was done about it
That was over 40 years ago
Good for Bernie.
Finally
No centrist will ever call it a genocide, but people are sure angry that a man who introduced multiple bills to cease or condition weapons sales didn't say the word as soon as they wanted.
These are the same people who called people trumpers when they said that harris should show some daylight between herself and biden's "whatever netanyahu-senpai wants" policies.
As a European, can someone explain to me why Bernie Sanders has never been running for president?
he did in 2016. dems sabotaged him in favour of Hillary
