News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
It's a shame some people still call that genocide a "war".
It is. How is that bad? A country is doing stuff in another with military force without consent. That's war. (If prolonged)
It's bad because it suggests two matched belligerents. It's like the difference between a boxing match with a skill gap, and a boxer violently murdering a child with a pretext. Also the child has been rendered physically and mentally disabled by the boxer's previous activity. Also the boxer locks the child up and deprives it of food and water and shelter.
Not all that comparable
No it doesn't suggest matched belligerents. Real life ain't no sport. Falkland war is also called that.
Falklands war was a boxing match with a skill gap, in my analogy.
It's not a war because Israel doesn't acknowledge it as a war. If it were a war, they would be treating Hamas as an actual military and be following the Geneva convention. Israel does not treat the thousands of Gazan hostages it's abducted, who it nominally labels as "Hamas," anything like what is required by the Geneva convention.
It's not a war because Israel has chosen not to treat it like a war.
There is no thing forcing you to adhere to international law. You don't have to follow Geneva Convention. You might be executed for it if caught outside of your country or if another country seems to stop you, but there is no compulsion there.
So your defense of Israel is that "well aktually the laws of war don't technically apply to them!"
Fuck off with this genocide apologia. If you need to split hairs on the technical definition of the laws of war, you're obviously doing something indefensible. Only Nazi trash feels the need to equivocate on something as unforgivable as genocide and war crimes.
Seriously, you need a therapist or a priest. Your soul is clearly broken.
I don't apologize genocide. I just say that they lead a war. A lot of genocides happened in war. It is ludicrous to forbid calling a war a war just because genocide is used in it.
There is no natural force stopping war crimes.
Most of the people in Gaza are not attempting to fight back, they're just getting killed. It's little kids and families, mostly. I think Hamas at the start of the "war" was about 45k people... they've killed several times that number of Palestinians at this point. They're just blowing up apartment buildings, hospitals, and universities. Gaza City was the last place that had any kind of real civilian life, and they're rolling into it now (and still not allowing food, people are starving in the streets).
This is a "war" like Ted Bundy was fighting in a "war."
No amount of human suffering can change that it is a war. Hamas is unable to peace out because, well, why would Israel stop when they could continue. I am not saying that there is a lot of actual fighting. This is about words.
Yes, glad we agree. There is not "fighting" between Israeli airstrikes, tanks, and coordinated infantry, and Palestinian families and occasional small arms by any Hamas people or irregulars still left alive. There is however quite a lot of dying. That was my point.
No. One country, backed by all the money and weapons of the west, was given land that was stolen from palestine in 1948, then they proceeded to slowly eradicate and remove the palestinian population. Just look at maps of palestine from 1948 to today, and watch the genocides progression.
There was an international arms embargo by the USA and the UN on Israel/Palestine in 1947-48.
The Zionists bought and smuggled in surplus WW2 weapons from Czechoslovakia during that time. The Soviet Union helped the Zionists, which were dominated by socialists at the time in the hopes of gaining an ally.
https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/55228/why-did-the-u-s-place-an-arms-embargo-on-all-belligerents-in-the-1948-arab-isra
Between 1948 and 1967 there was no slow removal of Palestinian Arabs. Almost all of it was quite sudden in 1948. Keep in mind that Jewish Palestinians were expelled from the Jordan occupied West Bank and half of Jerusalem. Gaza was occupied by Egypt and Jews were expelled. Arab and Muslim countries persecuted and expelled their Jewish population after 1948, resulting in 800,000 to a millions Jews fleeing, many to Israel.
There was an international arms embargo by the USA and the UN on Israel/Palestine in 1947-48.
The Zionists bought and smuggled in surplus WW2 weapons from Czechoslovakia during that time.
If I pulled a gun and killed an unarmed person, would you call that a fight?
If the united states randomly decided to hit every square kilometer of Liechtenstein with its own hydrogen bomb in the middle of the night, would you call that a war?
No, but a shooting.
Murder. It would be murder.
A shooting can involve murder. This is insanity. That's like claiming kicking a ball ain't kicking a ball but is football.
You didn't provide any further context.
No further context was provided. It wasn't a murder for it lacks prerequisite motivation. There might have been special circumstances, e.g. the father who killed his daughters killer in police custody. He was not convicted of murder hence is not a murderer.
There's a difference between war and ethnic cleansing.
Yes. And you can do both at once. They are not mutually exclusive.