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[–] catharso@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] spechter@feddit.org 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So almost 50% use it as a more energy intensive search engine, huh?

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Google really sucks now for some reason. It used to be much better.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can ask it much more complex questions than you can google and you can ask follow-up questions too.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You just have zero guarantee that the answers will be real

[–] stray@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's also true of traditional searches because the resulting webpages can just be whatever bullshit someone wrote. It will only be true that they said it. You still have to use your brain to assess the trustworthiness of the info.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 19 points 1 day ago

They get things wrong at a far higher rate than most of the websites that tend to end up at the top of a web result, and they get things wrong in weird ways that won’t stand out to users in the same way a shitty website will. These probabilistic text generators are much better at seeming like they have the correct answer than actually providing it.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, ChatGPT has gotten better at citing its sources, so it's easier to fact-check it.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

it's true that it has gotten better with sources. However remember the context of the conversation? much worse. But I can see the direction OpenAI is trying to take it. short one off responses/solutions with little followup.

It is better than Claude though. Claude will just make stuff up or say EVERYTHING is a "known issue" when it isn't.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, but you can see if the answer makes sense and then fact check it using Google if you need to. Which still doesn't give you 100% gurantee either.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, using ChatGPT is a way to increase one's environmental footprint.

And the energy cost doesn't appear to be fully passed to users yet, as OpenAI isn't profitable yet. There are even free LLM services. So users don't have an insentive to prefer less polluting alternatives, such as classic search engines.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s crazy how much money they are losing, and that’s with most of their compute being provided by Microsoft at cost, if not for free in exchange for the use of their models in Microsoft products.

Both they and Anthropic talk about their business as if they’re a software as a service company, but most SAS doesn’t get more expensive to run the more users there are, not to mention their conversion rate of free users to payed users is abysmal. Like, it’s an unsalvageable train wreck of a business model, I don’t see ether surviving more than a year unless they radically change their business models.