there will always be burner phones

Do they think we are stupid?

They definitely do. And they are partly right, for the average person this is enough to stop worrying

They do the Kremlin defence, just shit out words without meaning, wrong meaning, correct meaning, more words, and everyone can find their "right" answer.

Here the gullible/tech illiterate can get their "right" answer.

Wasn’t the plan for the messenger to scan for explicit material before the messages were sent (and encrypted)?

Here is a less radical version

Privacy is not negotiable. It is not a privilege granted by the state, but a fundamental condition of human freedom. Any attempt to undermine encryption, to insert backdoors, or to surveil private communications is not about protecting children, it is about total control.

The invocation of child protection is not neutral. It is a deliberate emotional manipulation, weaponized to silence dissent and shame opposition. If these proposals were truly about helping children, they wouldn’t be attacking the one technology that protects vulnerable people, encryption, including children themselves, activists, journalists, and victims of abuse.

Once the infrastructure for total surveillance is in place, it will never be dismantled without revolution. History is clear: power concedes nothing voluntarily. There will be no going back. The moment we compromise, we lose everything, and we will not get it back without blood.

There is no middle ground between liberty and submission. This is not a policy debate. This is a war for the future of human autonomy. We must reject this system entirely, not tweak it, not reform it, but destroy it at its root. To preserve freedom, we must be absolutely ungovernable.

Oh it's easy, anyone talking about "child pornography" is obviously just using manipulative emotional talking points related to children to cloud the discussion. This person has forfeited their right to free speech and has outed themselves as an enemy of self-determination.

You can tell because all the people invoking "think of the children" never actually care about children in their action, except maybe for their children, but not children as an abstract concept.

What they really want is to read your emails, your correspondence, know your plans and your thoughts so they can subjugate you and enslave you for their own benefits. Those people are the enemy of every human and should be treated with less mercy than witches at Salem.

Stop playing their game, they ALWAYS do this and they always brow beat their little transparent evil plans.

You want my answer when they ask "how will you be able to distinguish between encrypted child pornography", you go to the person that asked and punch their clock right the fuck out, take that you fucking dickhead ! And then spit in their face as they go down.

If you care about children how about you don't fucking cut their food ration out of the budget, you horrible ghouls and vampires !

Easy: encrypt CSAM. If the hashes match… Gotta have the encryption key, though. But you mustn't use for decryption. Only encryption

… And how will you be able to distinguish

I know porn when I see it

I don't see how we can stop it. If they don't succeed this year, they will try the next, and if not next, they will try the year after until it works. How do we stop this? We can't. Its like cancer. You can only slow the process down by being against them. Thats it :/ we all will be surveiled and there is nothing to stop it.

All we do as privacy advocates is to jump around. If one thing becomes illegal, we jump over to something else that provides privacy once again.

We are slowly becoming cashless, but new tech arrived and we started with crypto like monero. Once crypto is banned, we find different methods in staying anonymous or private :)

Dictators never leave peacefully.

DNA testing started out that way, and went exactly as predicted.

The only way it will go indeed