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SMH @ activists using techno-fascist platforms for communications during an operation subject to state-actor level interference. I thought we recognised and acknowledged this problem 15-20 years ago already.

https://xcancel.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1965431513320927706

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 hours ago

Maybe consider Signal instead?

[–] appropriateghost@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

another reason why not to use whatsapp? for all that is good, don't use meta or any corporate technofascist company. there are better options.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Damn, didn’t know Nitter still existed.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 27 points 8 hours ago

WhatsApp Supports starving children to death

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Sounds like this group is more of a social media vibe group, rather then a group interested in real undermining of Zionism. Maybe stop being pawns for slacktivists with rich parents and try joining the PLO instead?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 9 hours ago

A sad reality of political activism is the inability of many groups to follow proper opsec.

[–] incentive@lemmy.ml 54 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I use WhatsApp cautiously with friends who still refuse to jump over to Signal (let alone Matrix or Session). But it's def mind blowing to read an activist group was relying on it for organizing. Reminds me of FB being used for organizing G20 and BLM demos -_-

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 32 points 10 hours ago

Considering their entire marketing campaign is "nobody, not even WhatsApp can see your messages," I can see how folks would fall for that.

[–] ctry21@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think a lot of non-techie people only know signal from the Trump admin using it illegally earlier in the year. In a lot of people's minds because of that they think Signal = insecure because they don't get the nuances of why using it in that specific context -- on personal phones, using a third party app, with a random journalist in the mix -- was bad, but that for most people it's still one of the best options. WhatsApp on the other hand has a lot of marketing around it and if you didn't know that Meta is Facebook I think some people wouldn't even realise who the owners are.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I had a friend who heard signal was backdoored and that a regular old cell call was more secure. Had to correct that

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

wasn't it telegram that got hacked?
also i vaguely remember the signal ceo getting sued or something because they couldn't/wouldn't let some government body read someone's messages, because it's encrypted

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Totally consistent Meta is joined at the hip with US government and therefore more or less in league with Zionists, neocons and Israel just like every american big tech, bank and media company.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 53 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, based on the source, they're still even on Twitter which is a lot more overtly fascist than WhatsApp. So…yeah…

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 12 points 9 hours ago

There are some unofficial pages on the fediverse: https://mastodon.bida.im/@globalsumudflotilla

But yeah no links or mentions to mastodon and federated platforms on their website

https://globalsumudflotilla.org/

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is why you don't use whatsapp

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 17 points 7 hours ago

This is yet another reason why you don't use whatsapp

ftfy

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 33 points 11 hours ago

The number of people who are like "are you on Whatsapp? " fir secure conversations....

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 hours ago

So happy not to be using Whatsapp...

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's curious. I'd think they'd be prepared with Signal at the very least and some backup self-hosted channel, as well as cameras and backup cell hotspots.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

they were prepared for the drone hit the other day; so hopefully for this as well.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'd imagine they could have a few spread out boats further and further behind, each with its own cell hotspot, beaming WiFi all around, so that they have to be jammed simultaneously to stop the livestreams from capturing the attacks.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

it sounds like it would be easier to pick them off one-by-one if they were far apart.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

What difference would that make? If someone who does have big guns wants to take them out, they're going to end up at the bottom of the sea regardless of how clustered the boats are.

[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 5 points 10 hours ago

Or fiber optic cable.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

Did they select Whatsapp as a main communication channel and direct their supporters to it?

Or did they just start a group chat to reach out to supporters who were already on the app?

[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 10 hours ago

Was this their main channel of communication or just a group they had for supporters?

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

100% CIA and mossad were watching those channels realtime.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago

I am pretty sure those groups were public