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Linked the story for anyone who wants context. It's about a list compiled by Twitter user https://x.com/Crusader3456

Here's a direct link to a list of the games in a Google Sheets spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dJl8_JsJ5O2HyaP_oT4AoqrO1QEs9Own/edit?gid=1739673700#gid=1739673700

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[–] zrst@lemmy.cif.su 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I always lost respect for people whenever I saw them shilling gamepass.

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I can't go that far. I can't be upset at people for looking at deals and NOT thinking "but what about the companies?" Granted this hits differently as a field I love, but still, I get it.

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Game pass business model needs to fail because if it succeed we'll be buried in post capitalism dystopian reality where we don't own anything.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have different reasons I hate MS and Game Pass specifically, but I was never convinced by this argument.

It works on the argument of “We would like to stop offering direct purchase models, and require consumers to play by subscription.” But no one has done that. No one has really come close to doing that.

People argue the price will steadily go up; and that’s one of the reasons I don’t play Game Pass anymore. I knew that I wouldn’t maintain access to the games on there, which is why I bought the ones I wanted to keep playing - not very many.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They have started doing that though. No company is going to stop selling individual games. They are going to continue raising the prices, specially of games in high demand, to price out most people.

Same result for us. But they get the ideologue whales who keep buying individual games to virtue signal, and also get to exploit gamers. It's a win win.

Capitalism needs to die if you want change.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So this is basically an observation about raising prices. But I think there’s a misconception on social media that you have to be reading the news and on your soapbox to alert people to those things.

Pricing has always very readily affected people’s spending behavior. Not just people that follow gaming news, but people browsing GameStop for whatever’s new. We’ve even seen that - stats are showing people spent much less on games this year. Some people are even spending less through the option of going for a subscription rather than buying 8 games through the year. The publisher plan is certainly to tune up that cost with time, but personally, I don’t think that plan has a high chance of success.

And there’s a very worrying reality on the publisher side that gamers have many alternatives, especially as quality falls in these AAA products. You can imagine someone starved for a Soulslike might’ve spent $70 on generic copycat “Folly of the Dodgeroll 7”, if not for seeing Hollow Knight Silksong for $20 one shelf over.

So basically, I never hated the subscription model itself as a “weapon of capitalism”; just the constant attempts to shrinkflate as has been happening to most else.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

That's a different topic but ok.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“This is what you will play today”

[–] zrst@lemmy.cif.su 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Same as netflix.

Why can't we realize most people are dumb as shit being herded like sheep?

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Netflix was cheap until all the content owners decided to start their own streaming sites.

Enshitification and price hikes would have kicked in the second Netflix didn’t increase subscribers.

[–] zrst@lemmy.cif.su 0 points 23 hours ago

Free streaming sites were always cheaper than netflix and always had more selection.

Average people would rather use their wallets than their brains, so that's what they do.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Until "This item is unavailable"

That'll be $110/month!

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

$110 per months or 10 gameplay hours whichever come first.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

"Please drink verification can"?

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wouldn't give Microsoft any money if they were selling last molecules of oxygen on Earth, not fucking video games

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

No worries, enshittification and endless price increases are just a matter of time with any subscriptions service.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 days ago

And Microsoft is compiling lists of all Palestinians on behalf of israel

https://www.bdsmovement.net/microsoft

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Oh I thought it was gonna be a list of games that they announced and never released yet.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

I really hope the subscription model for games falls flat.

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Shit live services, don't give them money for it or say goodbye to owning games.

Some really nice games on that list too!

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean, a lot of the games on that spreadsheet (I would even guess more than 50%) contain licensed material, music, or other intellectual property that is not owned by Microsoft, ActiBlizz, or any of the subsidiary studios.

If someone was going to actually make a really list, those games should not be on the list that anyone would reasonably expect to come back, probably ever. It would require renegotiation of the licensed content with the license holder, if they are still easy to find, who would absolutely demand more money than originally agreed upon at the original game's release (thereby making the effort immensely expensive), or it would require developers to alter the artistic vision and integrity of some of those games that they can, while others like "Bee Movie: The Game" would require so much reworking it would be better to make it an original game instead.

I mean, imagine if Square Enix decided to remaster Omikron: The Nomad Soul. They would have to either renegotiate the soundtrack license with David Bowie's estate and the record label company that publisher the album, or they would have to destroy the legacy of the game by replacing the music with some other artist that would be guaranteed to be genuinely worse than David Bowie. Honestly, I am surprised but also overjoyed that Square Enix is still selling the game on Steam.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The oligopolies rarely buy out smaller companies and keep to promises, or let those companies do what they did best.

They buy them to control competition.

Not putting these titles on their service isn’t a tactic to control competition, but it is indicative of their lack of giving a shit about what they have hoarded.

[–] HuskerNation@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Man, I wish they'd make marvel ultimate alliance 1&2 available for download again. I swore I had 2 purchased digitally, I have all the dlc available on my account but not the game

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago

*cries in PS Plus Game Catalog*