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Yup. You should be paid from the moment you're required to arrive until the moment you're allowed to leave. That includes

• Getting changed into uniform, if there's a reason the uniform couldn't have been worn in (e.g. special safety gear, full body character costumes)
• Any security or bag checks
• Turning on computers

We just need a better government at this point.

Both sides need to stop going to bat for the people keeping them down.

Well, they're flight attendants, not rolling attendants, or sitting at the parking spot attendants. It's all in the job description.

capitalism. the problem is fucking capitalism.

That’s wrong. You can be on duty 15 hours a day and only get paid 3.5 hours. She misspoke or the press got it wrong.

Here's a fun fact. Vasquez Rocks is a common shooting location for Hollywood. Particularly Star Trek; my wife and I make a game of pointing out when they're using Vasquez Rocks for yet another episode.

The reason it's used so much is that it's an arid environment just outside the "studio zone". If they shoot within the studio zone, people have to pay for their own transportation and meals. If it's outside, the studio pays for all that. Vasquez Rocks is just outside the studio zone.

In theory that sounds good but I don't really get how it'd work. I mean what if you just lived four hours away so your commute there and back was just your eight hours? That's obviously ridiculous so what's the cut off? Like an hour? How does that affect breaks and lunch if you do live an hour away so you're only working six hours? Or is it just like a premium pay, like you earn 10% of your salary on your way in?

I wonder if any company actually does this.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/air-canada-flight-attendants-try-build-us-gains-unpaid-work-2025-08-06/

Air Canada (AC.TO), flight attendants want to make gains on unpaid work that go beyond recent advances secured by their U.S. counterparts, a union leader said on Wednesday, in a fresh test of the way airlines compensate cabin crews.

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New labor agreements at American Airlines (AAL.O), and Alaska Airlines (ALK.N), legally require carriers to start the clock for paying flight attendants when passengers are boarding, not when the flight starts to taxi down the runway. Those gains came after Delta Air Lines (DAL.N), whose flight attendants are not in a union, instituted boarding pay for its cabin crew at half of their hourly wages in 2022 when they were trying to organize.

Or they only got paid for the seconds/minutes they were actively checking out a customer. This is insane

Because it’s still a “glamor” job, and it eventually pays OK after a decade + of work. Travel, travel benefits, don’t take your work home with you…if you’re good with people and can do the training it can be a good gig. It should pay better, but nobody gets paid until the door is closed and the plane pushes back. Not even the pilots, but pilot pay can be high enough to account for all the time at work outside the “door closed at departure and door open at destination” pay clock where the flight attendants are stuck dealing with passengers on a plane even if the door is closed sitting at the gate and they don’t get paid.

Do you mean like work at Starbucks or Home Depot?

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/starbucks-executed-illegal-anti-union-campaign-labor-board-says

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/home-deport-responding-call-31-day-boycott-over-dei

https://www.newsweek.com/american-businesses-supporting-donating-donald-trump-list-2027957

The Home Depot was embroiled in whistleblower litigation brought under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (SOX) law. In July 2005, former employee Michael Davis, represented by attorney Mark D. Schwartz, filed a whistleblower lawsuit against the Home Depot, alleging that his discharge was in retaliation for refusing to make unwarranted back charges against vendors. Davis alleges that the Home Depot forced its employees to meet a set quota of back charges to cover damaged or defective merchandise, forcing employees to make chargebacks to vendors for merchandise that was undamaged and not defective. The Home Depot alleges that it fired Davis for repeatedly failing to show up for work.

So the converse of that would be: on the clock, I'm working.

And since they're on the clock before and after the plane is in the air, they should be getting paid for that time. It's a fucking travesty that they haven't been until now.