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The Labour Party could have made the case for a humane immigration system that treats refugees with dignity. Instead it has fanned the flames of racism and emboldened the far right.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/yes-jeremy-corbyn-was-vilified-because-he-criticized-israel/

How very sad it is that Corbyn was ousted as leader for making the case for Palestinian rights too early. Now look at what the current ruling Labour party is doing.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jerermy was speaking truth. And only idiots and the evils believed it

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

He's one of the most honest, straight talking and unpretentious politicians I've ever seen. It's a real shame the UK missed its chance to change direction with him.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unpretentious? There was a chance to stop hard Brexit, and the opposition parties called a meeting to organise it. Corbyn flounced out of the room in a huff because some independents were invited. The vote passed. That’s pretentiousness.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is a very weird framing of what I understand was a refusal to join a meeting in Jan 2018, which was organised by SNP and had no government presence. He never went in the room at all, so the "flounced out in a huff" appears to be complete fiction.

I personally don't think that one meeting, containing small parties that were not in power, had any meaningful effect on the proposed deal with the EU, which was still being discussed up until 2020.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 4 days ago

It was at a point where if May had lost the vote, a VoNC was threatened by the eurosceptics.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Keir Starmer is a seat warmer for Nigel Farage

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

History repeats itself.

We'll get another entry for "Social democracy the left wing of fascism" in another decade or two.

I wish Corbyn and the like-minded success in preventing fascism and further neoliberal regression.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 4 days ago

I mean, modern Labor are center-right/rightwing neoliberals; I don't think anyone would identify them with center-left social democracy.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't think letting asylum seekers work would make a blind bit of difference. The right just don't want them here at all. They want them to stop coming, not let them continue coming but then working. The right will just complain that they're taking people's jobs.

I'd be curious what approach Corbyn's policy would be on this.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think letting asylum seekers work would make a blind bit of difference.

It would because if they can work and become productive members of society, the real issues fueling rightwing bigotry would be lessened. Of course the already bigoted will want them gone, but the right relies on issues like crime and the budget to spread.

The right will just complain that they're taking people's jobs.

True, which is why a comprehensive leftwing program is necessary to facilitate job creation and provide safety nets for those who fall through the cracks.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As long as they keep seeing x number of immigrants arriving each day, they'll keep voting far right. They just want them to stop, I think they've been clear on that. They want a party who says what they want to hear (I doubt Reform would be able to do anything about it).

I think the reason why asylum seekers aren't allowed to work is because the stay is supposed to be strictly temporary. They're supposed to return home when things are safe. Letting them work would probably make it less likely they're going to return home if they start settling. I can't see that being a popular policy as they'll see it making the UK more inviting (either way it's the wrong move as they'll just complain they're on benefits).

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

Again, my point isn't that addressing issues related to immigration would make bigoted people not bigoted; it's that doing so would curb the far right's ability to expand. By delivering material gains for the working class and leading by example, it's possible to inoculate the wider electorate against the far right (and the right in general). Immigrants are only one scapegoat in a long line of scapegoats; the real mechanism behind the spread of rightwing ideas is that they provide something to scapegoat for people's (very real) troubles. Put another way, Hitler didn't need immigrants.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

Fuck the right wing.

That's what the policy should be. Throw their Nazi asses in jail.