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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.

(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

There's such different views on life that I don't think its possible to get software designed close to what you or I believe in.

If the source is open, the code is viewable. So yes I think I can trust, at least the code.

Also there's a saying "trust but verify". So actually check to see if the binaries your getting actually behave the way you think.

[–] chaosCruiser 6 points 4 days ago

Would you drive on a road made by nazis? Your life literally depends on the quality of the road, but where does political ideology come in to this equation?

With software though, different things are at stake, but how will ideology affect the quality? I think it does have a effect on features and how the project is run, but isn’t quality a mostly separate area?

Depends on the context but generally I will. Like I don't love the lead of GrapheneOS but I still use there project. But I strongly disagree with Protons ethics and many other issues so I avoid them. Really it's a question of how much I want to care and how much I disagree with them.

[–] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (4 children)

jdupes: it's great software. The author left GitHub not because of Microsoft, but because he refused to implement 2fa on his account, which GitHub made mandatory.

[–] plantsmakemehappy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

His website has some wild ranting about codeberg too. I've been tempted to stop using jdupes.

[–] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

As have I... But it's so dang handy. From what I know there is no alternative that is quite as good

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[–] Lukaro@piefed.zip 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I choose not to do business with anyone who's too vocal about their political disagreements. I'm paying you for your services not your opinion so shut up!

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago

I had a contractor in my house who saw that I had 40k models. Just as he was packing up, he started ranting about how the game had gotten too woke.

Please spare me and just leave.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I used to feel this way but I need more nuance now.

If I had a global (or national, or statewide, or even citywide) platform of any kind, and there were momentous things happening in the world that I felt were wrong, and that I felt needed more awareness, how could I not use my platform?

I used to be so sick of celebrities with their political statements until one day that hit me. How could you, in good conscience (and this is true even of opinions I don't agree with) find yourself with millions of people willing to listen to you, how could you not use your platform if you feel strongly enough that there is a moral or ethical obligation to speak up?

[–] Lukaro@piefed.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a matter of trust, I can't trust magats to be competent.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

You might have replied to the wrong guy. I really didn't touch on that.

[–] benni@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I'd see it as a seal of quality if the developer is a crank.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I moved off of lemmy because I didn't want to use software made by a tankie, so no.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Does it make much difference when your still federalised?

If you had not mentioned it i would be unable to tell that you are not on lemmy, i also believe your comments and interactions are still getting indexed by lemmy instances and help their growth.

That said, your instance is alluring to me.

I didn’t know about piefed till now, how big of a switch/change would it be?

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I've installed thousands of programs on my systems over the past 30 years. Closed source, open source, you name it. Never had a single problem.

Trusting software is such an overblown hangup that people have. Even if it bites me in the ass someday, so what? I'll roll back, reformat, do whatever I have to do. It'll have been worth it.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Is the political disagreement around surveillance or something related?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 4 days ago

Yes.

Whether you'd boycott it is another thing.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

No. Fuck that guy.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

I can't really apply "you don't understand the code yourself" because I do.

So I do check the code if it's something critical, but otherwise don't bother. For example the Lemmy server I'm running I didn't really check much because it can't really do any harm to me.

But if I was running Lemmy somewhere on my home network, I'd either isolate it or thoroughly check it (but probably just isolate it from the rest of the network and put it in a VM, nobody's got the time to read other people's source code).

Since you're asking specifically for "on my machine" I usually put stuff I don't fully trust in a VM.

for me, it generally boils down to "show me the work, then i decide".

some works are more influenced by politics like art pieces and written works. some, like architecture, plumbing and network stacks, much less so.

in this case, even if you don't know code but can be a good appraiser of political taint then you can decide on your own what to endorse or not.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

If I know someone's political affiliation prior to using their software I'll likely find an alternative if their views are harmful.

[–] anothernobody@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Not when it comes to anything important like work or other sensitive data.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You are not supposed to trust anyone who doesn’t have a duty of providing trust. It is why companies like Red Hat, canonical and Novell were paid billions; they did the reviews and provided support. Yes, some distributions try to provide some of that (like Arch, Debian, etc) but only for core packages (everything else is just the Wild West and it could be malware again)

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