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been researching genetics and noticed humans and chimps are much nearer chromosomewise than many species that successfully breed hybrids so, even tho ive always heard humans cant hybrid with any nonhumans, i looked in to it and found this interesting thing.
Joe rogan origin story.
he was born in 1967 π€―
"It's entirely possible."
Damn, that's crazy
π
A college buddy saw a newspaper ad (this was in the 80s) for a medical experiment project for $500. He went and it was for attempting to impregnate a chimpanzee. He thought about and said heβd be willing to do it only if: nobody ever finds out about his involvement, that the progeny (if any) be treated well, and heβd need a week to come up with the $500.
wait, he had to pay 500β¬?
It's a joke (I assume and hope).
I have a really hard time believing this is possible considering human/chimp hybrids are not already recorded as being a thing. Like every one of the people out there with the opportunity to impregnate a chimp has had the decency and restraint to not try? While at the same time treating each other as badly as we do? It must be the case that they've tried, and it just doesn't work. 1967 Chinese scientists are for sure not the first ones to consider this.
valid points however...
arm ripping, face biting, fuck-u-up machines don't really want to get it on with just anybody.
I read a news story a while ago about a shaved orangutan police rescued from a brothel in... I think it was Indonesia?
If people are paying to fuck a shaved orangutan then people have definitely voluntarily fucked chimps.
Orangutans are far more docile and friendly than chimps.
Well sure.
But I'd still eat my shirt if someone somewhere has never fucked a female chimp to completion.
please don't screenshot a wikipedia article, or most text really
No, I would prefer it if they did.
Please keep screenshotting anything you want other people to see and post it. :3
How does that work for people who can't see?
No one ever cared about this man. As someone in close relationships, with differently abled individuals, this was always just an easy way to train the AI better and well meaning fools ate the idea up and spread it like wild fire. Don't be a sheep, you didn't care about this until someone told you that you should misleadingly.
Do you have any idea how long it took me to train train that monkey how to suck my dick, without trying to peel it like a banana first?
I thought bonobos were closer, genetically.
https://www.science.org/content/article/bonobos-join-chimps-closest-human-relatives
Article from 2012:
Chimpanzees now have to share the distinction of being our closest living relative in the animal kingdom. An international team of researchers has sequenced the genome of the bonobo for the first time, confirming that it shares the same percentage of its DNA with us as chimps do. The team also found some small but tantalizing differences in the genomes of the three speciesβdifferences that may explain how bonobos and chimpanzees don't look or act like us even though we share about 99% of our DNA.
https://cincinnatizoo.org/celebrating-vernon-the-oldest-mammal-at-the-cincinnati-zoo/
The Cincinnati Zoo has been maintaining that bonobos are our closest living relative for over 17 years
I'm not strongly disputing the information you provided, I'm just pointing out what I have seen. There does seem to be some professional dispute about this:
https://www.bonobos.org/blog/bonobos-our-living-ancestor/
The idea that chimps and bonobos are equally similar in DNA is probably correct. I see it repeated on NPR, Duke Universe, and the NIH. My guess is that the push for differentiation is some combination of conversation efforts and both morphological and social studies.
I'm far from an expert but from what I understand, it's hard to really define the generic similarities since it's not a contiguous chunk of DNA that's the same. It's piecemeal and fragmented. So it makes sense that even the experts in the field would have arguments about it. Nonetheless it does seem like the three of us are closest, but the specifics are still being researched.
Hah, yeah, this is very far from my specialty, fixing computers. I only felt empowered by my many trips to the zoo and Google-fu.
The human lineage diverged from that of chimps and bonobos before chimps and bonobos diverged from each other.
I've always thought, this would work at all as Chimps have 48 chromosome pairs and humans only have 46.
It might create a sterile hybrid, similar to a mule. Whatever the case, explaining the result of this to another being that could understand and explaining the innate cruelty in their creation is significantly beyond me.
Would you believe that the Chinese often over sell their scientific achievements? Well, for every 100 legitimate Chinese scientists, you'll have a batshit insane or bold face liar "scientists" that makes the headlines. I had to debunk an "invisibility cloak" that fooled my friends a few years ago.
How do you debunk that which you cannot see?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39xpcAVwZj4
It was this video. All it is is a piece of solid color fabric chromakeyed out.
Zheng He made it to the moon first, fite me
"Complexities and partial sterility pertain to horseβzebra hybrids, or zorses, whose chromosomal disparity is very wide, with horses typically having 32 chromosome pairs and zebras between 16 and 23 depending on species."
Let's say this hybrid is possible, is there a way for it to be done ethically? If not, it seems pretty annoying that there is a way for something as huge as that to not exist purely out of sheer will basically. Maybe its not like a question of ethics and more like we aren't likely to do it until it does happen and then we just gotta ride the wave of our consequences
About 15% of the worldβs population doesnβt even believe other 79% is fully human. Not sure what you expect.
The thing is not everyone agrees on where that ethical line lies.
We as humans can't even agree what is food.
We'll eat Arthropods like lobster, but not spiders?
i think some spiders are eaten
Water bugs = food
Land bugs = eew
One is meat and the other is goo.
Land bugs turn into meat when you cook them. Same as lobsters do.
Pigs and cows, but not dogs?
Coincidentally, thatβs the year Noel Gallagher was born, though Iβd say they perfected it with their next attempt.
Since humans are categorized as great apes, then technically, we're already living on planet of the apes. π
Rare Cultural Revolution W
Maybe those scientists needed to touch grass.
Apparently this is just a thing China and Russia have been accusing each other of doing for decades. Like a rumor or an urban legend of sorts spread by governments to make each other look ridiculous.
However, the fact that we keep finding out governments have always used the money and resources they exploit from their citizens for these kinds of secret crazy ass stupid sci fi experiments (in addition to the resources necessary to spread rumors and propaganda about each other), in order to test the boundaries of human existence, should tell us that it's never really been a problem of "those people in that country" as much as it is apparently human nature to allow certain kinds of people to keep coming to power.
Does humanity even have a reliable and affordable cure for most cancers at this point? Do we even have flying cars or robots that aren't complete shit?
"Oh don't you worry about all that, I have this idea for how we can make a man that is part chimpanzee and part human."
Like honestly given the kinds of things we have found out decades after the fact governments actually did to other humans and sometimes their own citizens, it's not even that hard to see how a rumor like that would be spread.
An example of something ridiculous a government might actually attempt updated for 2025: "I have this idea for achieving immortality using AI. The level of artificial intelligence necessary to take even a baby step towards succeeding doesn't actually exist yet, and we might just end up tearing a hole in the fabric of reality while we try, but such is the cost of greatness and being the first (and in this case if that was the ultimate outcome, obviously the last)."
The fact that we keep allowing these same kinds of people to end up as our rulers without some kind of a global uprising is legit more surprising to me than it would be to learn that a government actually attempted to create a human chimpanzee hybrid in recent history. However, going by the source on the Wiki page, it just links to a quote apparently taken from an old Soviet news article from the 80s which is not even immediately available. What a shocker.
There's been blips of uprisings like the Arab spring, but there's really never been a global movement that I'm aware of. We've had two world wars fighting on behalf of these kinds of people. Like accepting complete chaos and destruction to help them hold on to their power, and we're definitely on the brink of fighting a third one. It seems like most people loathe and resent them, and they're always replaced with somebody new, but it's just kinda surprising humanity has never had a world war or uprising fighting against them. I know that sounds pretty "I'm 15 and this is deep," but that's just something that's literally never really occurred to me.
Reminds me of "Facts concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family" By H. P. Lovecraft https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/faj.aspx