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Scientists say ‘shocking’ discovery shows rapid cuts in carbon emissions are needed to avoid catastrophic fallout

The collapse of a critical Atlantic current can no longer be considered a low-likelihood event, a study has concluded, making deep cuts to fossil fuel emissions even more urgent to avoid the catastrophic impact.

The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (Amoc) is a major part of the global climate system. It brings sun-warmed tropical water to Europe and the Arctic, where it cools and sinks to form a deep return current. The Amoc was already known to be at its weakest in 1,600 years as a result of the climate crisis.

Climate models recently indicated that a collapse before 2100 was unlikely but the new analysis examined models that were run for longer, to 2300 and 2500. These show the tipping point that makes an Amoc shutdown inevitable is likely to be passed within a few decades, but that the collapse itself may not happen until 50 to 100 years later.

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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

sigh I had an idea to retire in Ireland but I guess I should pack my winter coat.

[–] Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

…whatever happens with the climate, you should pack your winter coat.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

50 to 100 years from now? .... phew..... i can rest easy now ..... at least all I have to worry about in my lifetime is extreme heat and hurricanes .... I'll let the next generation worry about the mid Atlantic Ocean current failing

Hey it might even start a mini ice age .... which would be a good thing because of the global warming right?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 16 hours ago

This current brings warmer weather to Europe so it will get colder when it collapses. I think Europe should make collapsing this current their official climate change mitigation policy. No one else affected is really interested in doing anything to stop it anyway.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey it might even start a mini ice age

Circulating the hot air north into cooler climates brings rain and snow to what would otherwise be a dry North American inland. A collapse in the current wouldn't change the prevailing climate, just the distribution of heat between regions. You'd end up with these ugly Atlantic hot spots paralleled by dry tundras up north. But the planet wouldn't cool as a result. If anything, the resulting desertification would contribute to the warming cycle.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn't Europe specifically supposed to get really cold?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Western Europe - England, France, and Scandinavia in particular. Southern Europe is going to get much hotter.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe I read that it would cause rainfall in North America to increase. But decrease in India and West Africa which would be pretty catastrophic.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

India is nowhere near the Atlantic, though. You might be thinking of monsoons changing due to separate effects.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Surprising but that’s what it said, unless I’m misremembering.

The climate system is interconnected and a big change like this can have geographically distant effects.

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, we went from the first flight to people on the moon in only 66 years. So there's no real reason to cut into record profits now, they'll have reversing it figured out by the time the collapse happens!

/s

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Wait until you see the price tag though. Hoo boy.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Here are my uneducated predictions. Iceland will become practically uninhabitable, more like Northern Quebec, along with Norway. UK will have weather more like Labrador. Without the current to circulate heat away from the tropics, the Caribbean area will become hotter and more prone to severe storms.