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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — A top Florida official says the controversial state-run immigration detention facility in the Everglades will likely be empty in a matter of days, even as Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration and the federal government fight a judge’s order to shutter the facility dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz” by late October. That’s according to an email exchange shared with The Associated Press.

In a message sent to South Florida Rabbi Mario Rojzman on Aug. 22 related to providing chaplaincy services at the facility, Florida Division of Emergency Management Executive Director Kevin Guthrie said “we are probably going to be down to 0 individuals within a few days.” Rojzman, and the executive assistant who sent the original email to Guthrie, both confirmed the veracity of the messages to the AP.

A spokesperson for Guthrie, whose agency has overseen the construction and operation of the site, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

News that the last detainee at “Alligator Alcatraz” could leave the facility within days came less than a week after a federal judge in Miami ordered the detention center to wind down operations, with the last detainee needing to be out within 60 days. The state of Florida appealed the decision, and the federal government asked U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams to put her order on hold pending the appeal, saying that the Everglades facility’s thousands of beds were badly needed since detention facilities in Florida were overcrowded.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 182 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Literally every inmate should sue the state and not settle for a class action.

Individually.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 74 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Both Florida and the US government's sovereign immunity clauses are designed specifically to prevent this. The judiciary is heavily shielded, even from intentional misconduct. It's why you almost never hear about successful lawsuits against penitentiaries.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 6 days ago

Sad part is that only hurts the people. Gov. High heels and Pres. Kid fucker are free and protected.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 12 points 6 days ago

Kinda hard if they get deported

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 96 points 6 days ago (4 children)

What a waste of resources.

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 110 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Somebody made bank because of this bullshit.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 52 points 6 days ago

Grifters gonna grift. The whole admin is a conglomerate of grifters.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 25 points 6 days ago

Using hate to make bank, the American way.

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

GEO Group - George Zoley and his son Chris

Every f***ing American should know their names and they don’t and they get to live in comfort because of it.

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Company that invests in private prisons. Both times trump was elected, their stock doubled within the following weeks/months. Jesus that's fucked

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don’t just invest in them, they build them.

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

And own and operate. "Invest" was just kind of an umbrella term. But unintentionally made them seem less fucked up

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

Ya, including some Canadians for feck's sake.

Search for... Canadian Company Staffing Alligator Alcatraz... You'll find Gardaworld

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what the average detainment period has been but they somehow managed to deport immigrants to El Salvador in a few days, but no doubt they've been holding others for weeks without a hearing or any kind of scheduled date for deportation.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 6 days ago

Gitmo, Rwanda, Uganda, Somalia, we don't really know where else.

[–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Gardaworld shareholders who no doubt made a contribution to Trump

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The administration's claims that it's 250-450 million USD fronted by Florida, and then backfilled by FEMA Shelter and Services Program funds.

It would be interesting to see how many thousands they paid per night to imprison each person here.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 12 points 6 days ago

One of the other versions of this same thing, I think the one in Texas, they are paying $300k per tent in building the facility. This entire thing reeks of manufacturing an opportunity to hand inflated government contracts to selected individuals

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[–] C4551E@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago

modern humans in a nutshell

Republican opportunism is thrifty. I'll give them that.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 50 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Well that was a huge waste of tax dollars

And human dignity

And human suffering

And....

[–] Pappabosley@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not a waste, there's tax dollars were funnelled to a local millionaire or billionaire through a "legitimate" purchase of goods and services. You don't really think it would be that expensive to put up marquees in a swamp?

Well given how many castles sunk into swamps? I'm gonna presume swamps are a bitch to work with in general, but this is also a Trump project meaning 2 bucks worth of chainlink was marked up 500 percent.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

Not just any local millionaire or billionaire! Ron DeSantis's friends and donors. Yayyy

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

You are missing the point, and cruelty is the point. The cons got to hurt people AND own the libz!

There was nothing at all wasted as far as they are concerned. I'm sure if you asked some of them, they'd say it was worth every single penny and they'd gladly do it all again. Even if they have to skip a few meals, don't have health care, or a job, etc...

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 6 days ago

They plan to extraordinarily rendition them.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

the facility dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz”

I'm not familiar...do they mean Alligator Auschwitz?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

The Everglades Concentration Camp. None of this branding

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 45 points 6 days ago

Could have built a lot of free/affordable housing with all the money they dumped on this racist PR stunt, actually going to work on that unhoused crisis. but nah. Brilliant leadership from the fash regime once again.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Where are they sending the detainees?

[–] Steve@startrek.website 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

This is why I am not exactly thrilled about this.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago

Probably fucking Uganda

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Probably fed them to the alligators if I had to guess.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

All that trash that was made and sold should be treated the same way that Nazi stuff is treated in Germany.

[–] LambeauLeap@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 days ago

Lol so now it's alligator Alcatraz because it's shut down, like Alcatraz, and surrounded by gators.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm glad it's being shut down, especially since my first thought was that they were requesting chaplain services because they were going to kill all the prisoners.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't get your hopes up. They're likely still going to be killed. It will just be somewhere else.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Keep it preserved. You'll need a place where you can store the Trumpists when this is over.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

how we treat the worst among us is how we judge a society. tear it the fuck down and build a humane prison.

Reconstruction and Nuremberg were objective failures to place accountability that I would rather not repeat.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

That's the thinking that allowed the fascists to survive long enough to take over.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago

Shut it down!!!

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Hell yeah. This is correct.

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